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**FIRE** · 12 Dec 2003, 15:33 (Ref:810280)

Good news!
Reuter, Frentzen, Dumbreck and Fassler will drive a new Vectra.

Who are the other Opel drivers?

**touringlegend** · 12 Dec 2003, 17:47 (Ref:810425)

Has HHF ever race any Touring Cars before? I'm guessing perhaps he's had a go at the DTM in the early 90's ??

BSchneiderFan · 12 Dec 2003, 17:52 (Ref:810432)

Not as far as I know. But he raced sportscars for Mercedes in the early '90s.

**FIRE** · 12 Dec 2003, 18:56 (Ref:810476)

He did:
German Formula Opel Lotus (Champion in '88)
German F3
F3000
Sportscars

nsxr · 12 Dec 2003, 19:28 (Ref:810488)

side thought alfas are going to join in'05 that will bmw to fight it out with seat in the etcc/wtcc. could that tempt them to join the dtm since thay can probably handle seat challenge with no problems

**FIRE** · 12 Dec 2003, 19:42 (Ref:810495)

Quote:

Originally posted by nsxr
side thought alfas are going to join in'05 that will bmw to fight it out with seat in the etcc/wtcc. could that tempt them to join the dtm since thay can probably handle seat challenge with no problems

Is Alfa entry confirmed? There were rumours this was only whisfull thinking of German magazine Motorsport Aktuell.
I think BMW will not enter DTM because of Mercedes, there are old pains between them.

alonso11 · 12 Dec 2003, 21:09 (Ref:810539)

Here is the first picture of Frentzen (in his brand new racing overalls), Strycek and Fässler at Opel HQ, Rüsselsheim.

here is a preview:

alonso11 · 12 Dec 2003, 21:11 (Ref:810540)

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ATF · 12 Dec 2003, 22:00 (Ref:810579)

Quote:

Originally posted by FIRE
Who are the other Opel drivers?

The other drivers are possibly Menu, Aiello or Bleekemolen.

Surely Aiello wouldn't join Opel just to race in an Astra?!

Come back to Britain Laurent!

And I can't believe they would put Menu in an Astra while those 4 have the Vectras? Maybe Menu's on his way back to Britain!

alonso11 · 13 Dec 2003, 00:20 (Ref:810657)

So,so far that's what we know:

Audi
---------------
E. Piro
F. Biela
T. Kristensen
C. Abt
M. Ekstrom
M. Tomczyk

Mercedes
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B. Schneider
J. Alesi
C. Albers
S. Mücke
G. Paffett
T. Jager ?
M. Winkelhock ?
M. Bobbi ?
A. Farfus ?

Opel
-------------------
P. Dumbreck
A. Menu
T. Scheider
M. Reuter
M. Fassler
L. Aiello
J. Bleekemolen ?

kmchow · 13 Dec 2003, 02:20 (Ref:810698)

All we need is to have Schumacher "retire" from F1 in '04 and race in '05 in a Alfa 157(??)???

ATF · 13 Dec 2003, 20:25 (Ref:811162)

Quote:

Originally posted by alonso11
Mercedes
--------------------
B. Schneider
J. Alesi
C. Albers
S. Mücke
G. Paffett
T. Jager ?
M. Winkelhock ?
M. Bobbi ?
A. Farfus ?

Opel
-------------------
P. Dumbreck
A. Menu
T. Scheider
M. Reuter
M. Fassler
L. Aiello
J. Bleekemolen ?

Paffett, Aiello and Menu haven't been confirmed to drive yet.

alonso11 · 13 Dec 2003, 20:33 (Ref:811168)

the only question about Paffett is whether he will drive works Mercedes or not,but he will drive a Mercedes,you are right about Aiello though he is 'highly likely' only.

**FIRE** · 13 Dec 2003, 21:24 (Ref:811198)

Quote:

Originally posted by alonso11
the only question about Paffett is whether he will drive works Mercedes or not,but he will drive a Mercedes,you are right about Aiello though he is 'highly likely' only.

I think its for shure Bernd 'Mr Mercedes DTM' Schneider, Christijan Albers and Jean Alesi will drive a works Mercedes. So if they have 4 works cars again there's one seat left and I think Paffet is a strong candidate.

kmchow · 14 Dec 2003, 01:42 (Ref:811332)

Has Alesi's status been upgraded? Previously, people often referred to his drive as being a "guest drive"? It's not really a regular seat? Does that mean he got less attention/car preparation?

flor · 14 Dec 2003, 03:53 (Ref:811363)

no, he has the same car as every other HWA driver

**FIRE** · 14 Dec 2003, 12:13 (Ref:811537)

Quote:

Originally posted by flor
no, he has the same car as every other HWA driver

Same car but his results are dissapointing me.

kmchow · 15 Dec 2003, 04:03 (Ref:811911)

Hmmm, I wonder if there is a chance Jacque Villeneuve can get a DTM seat. Then we can we have Alesi, Frentzen and Villeneuve racing in the DTM. And if Villeneuve races in the DTM, it will give DTM some more coverage here in NA!

Tim Harvey Fan · 15 Dec 2003, 17:15 (Ref:812318)

I don't think Villeneuve will have any desire to drive in DTM...but he did say that NASCAR was a possibility...so I guess anything can happen! It would be a shame to see him on the sidelines doing nothing though.

kmchow · 16 Dec 2003, 01:54 (Ref:812694)

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Harvey Fan
I don't think Villeneuve will have any desire to drive in DTM...but he did say that NASCAR was a possibility...so I guess anything can happen! It would be a shame to see him on the sidelines doing nothing though.

It seems Villenuve has become money obsessed. He doesn't really care where he races, as long as it's the most he can make.

Tim Harvey Fan · 16 Dec 2003, 03:56 (Ref:812735)

I don't think he has ever really had a great passion for racing, in general. He said once that cars and racing doesn't particularly interest him. I think he's in it for the competition...and maybe the money too...

ATF · 19 Dec 2003, 14:57 (Ref:816162)

MERCEDES

Bernd Schneider
Jean Alesi
Christijan Albers
Gary Paffett - 95% sure

OPEL

Laurent Aiello
Heinz-Harald Frentzen
Manuel Reuter
Peter Dumbreck
Marcel Fässler

AUDI

Frank Biela
Emmanualle Pirro
Tom Kristensen
Mattias Ekström
Christian Abt
Martin Tomcyzk

Looking like a strong line-up so far. I think the only other top driver not to be confirmed (yet) is Alain Menu!

flor · 19 Dec 2003, 18:30 (Ref:816312)

Menu won't race for Opel

**FIRE** · 19 Dec 2003, 18:59 (Ref:816344)

So Opel enters 5 new Vectra's? It's a very strong line up and they need to score podium finishes in 2004.

ATF · 19 Dec 2003, 22:19 (Ref:816463)

Quote:

Originally posted by flor
Menu won't race for Opel

Why not? What's he up to?

Quote:

Originally posted by FIRE
So Opel enters 5 new Vectra's?

At least. They may build more throughout 2004 and may start the year with a couple of Astras.