F1 goes to Sky sports - Page 10

joe rossi · 29 Jul 2011, 17:42 (Ref:2932853)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Sky aren't showing advert breaks during the races.

just seen that, thanks for correcting me

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 17:42 (Ref:2932854)

BBC coverage is fantastic. I would be surprised if anywhere in the world matches what we get. Certainly from the limited exposure I have had it doesn't.

Sky cover sporting events well and the lack of adverts will be a boon. Not as good as the beeb, but eighty times better than the disgraceful ITV.

IMHO, this is acceptable and doesn't require death threats to Bernie.

Flat12-Aircool · 29 Jul 2011, 17:43 (Ref:2932855)

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Originally Posted by Fox89

Good news!

BBC will show entire races deferred, says Whitmarsh.

Bernie had better stick to that!!

If that's the case it makes you wonder what's in it for Sky?

The quote I've read is that there's a few things that still need to be hammered down, that being one of them. Maybe after hearing that, the Sky people are wanting some of their money back?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Jul 2011, 17:44 (Ref:2932856)

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Originally Posted by Fox89

0, I think, as it was only on ITV (edit: and ESPN)

I looked back on previous years though out of curiosity, and they were all around the same. 7-8 million.

So the BBC don't broadcast the FA Cup final anymore?

7-8 million, I thought it would have been more.

Pingguest · 29 Jul 2011, 17:48 (Ref:2932858)

Who's going to watch entire races deferred, knowing the full results already?

Pingguest · 29 Jul 2011, 17:48 (Ref:2932859)

Personally, I think the entire BBC Grand Prix team should go on strike tomorrow.

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 17:50 (Ref:2932861)

Because of their pensions?

Silk Cut Jaguar · 29 Jul 2011, 17:54 (Ref:2932862)

It's sad that Sky has been the target of all the hate when it's really the BBC that have thrown the fans under a bus with this decision.

The sense of entitlement in this thread is a little overwhelming as well.

Maybe the viewing figures will go down which will in turn have an impact on sponsorship. Maybe. But I guarantee that the increased TV revenue from Sky will keep the teams books in the black. I wonder if the more targeted demographic of the average Sky Sports subscriber will help sponsorship too?

I enjoy watching F1 so I'll willingly pay for coverage, the only time I'll bemoan Sky is if their effort is a clear step backwards from what the BBC offer but I realise that puts me in a distinct minority in this thread.

Fox89 · 29 Jul 2011, 17:55 (Ref:2932863)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

Who's going to watch entire races deferred, knowing the full results already?

Me! Results are only the results. The journey of getting to them is the fun bit of racing. Sure, you may have seen that Vettel beat Alonso over the line, but what the results DON'T tell you is that prior to that they had an epic 30 lap battle and were side by side for most of it*.

*Oh, just remembered I used Vettel in my example, so I might have to change it to 'so you know he crashed but you dont know how spectacularly he crashed'.

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 17:55 (Ref:2932864)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

Who's going to watch entire races deferred, knowing the full results already?

I manage this all the time. Sunday is in the middle of the day is inconvenient. Even last weekend I managed to avoid the result and watch the recorded version as if live even though I had been at Silverstone watch F1 cars before they were the current spec. Formula.

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 17:59 (Ref:2932866)

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Originally Posted by Silk Cut Jaguar

The sense of entitlement in this thread is a little overwhelming as well.

F1 fans are demanding, arrogant, money grabbing and hypocritical. I blame Bernie.

davyboy · 29 Jul 2011, 18:02 (Ref:2932867)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

BBC coverage is fantastic. I would be surprised if anywhere in the world matches what we get. Certainly from the limited exposure I have had it doesn't.

Sky cover sporting events well and the lack of adverts will be a boon. Not as good as the beeb, but eighty times better than the disgraceful ITV.

IMHO, this is acceptable and doesn't require death threats to Bernie.

You're in a tiny minority there Adam... just about everyone on every forum related to motorsport is enraged by this.

shy tot racing · 29 Jul 2011, 18:04 (Ref:2932868)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Everyone knows that Bernie's a lying conniving cock... he always has been. But the blame for this lands at the door of the Beeb. They were offered it. They can afford it. They chose not to take it. In fact they chose to back out of it before the end of their contract. If they were beholden to their viewers, they would have had to prioritise their expenditure accordingly in order to outbid Sky. But they're not.

You've got it spot on!

Paulaweybridge · 29 Jul 2011, 18:04 (Ref:2932869)

around 7500 signatures now.

Looks as if 'People Power' means that the Beeb will transmit all the races even if half are deferred which suits me fine too. Afterall we all watched the Canadian GP later in the evening here in the UK.

Must not go down to Brands Hatch Media Centre when a Sky transmitted F1 race is being shown ...

Originally Posted by Alan Raine
There's already a petition.

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/keepf1onthebbc

If they get 100,000 it's possibly debated in Parliament

joe rossi · 29 Jul 2011, 18:06 (Ref:2932873)

"From what Bernie has said it's better than expected," said Whitmarsh.

"The BBC will show every grand prix in full, half of them live and half of them deferred, so free-to-air is available to everyone.

"Sky sound like they are really going to commit to it as well, so it sounds like there is a little bit of competition between the BBC and Sky.

"So overall, from Bernie's view, it will increase the total viewership within the UK.

Why would this increase overall viewers in the UK?

Does Bernie think that people don't watch F1 because it's on BBC and will now suddenly start watching it because it's on Sky?

Marbot · 29 Jul 2011, 18:07 (Ref:2932874)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

You're in a tiny minority there Adam... just about everyone on every forum related to motorsport is enraged by this.

You mean that everyone who watches F1 on the BBC on every forum related to motorsport is enraged by this?

shy tot racing · 29 Jul 2011, 18:09 (Ref:2932876)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Can't even get rid of the dreaded casual fans due to it still being on BBC in various forms.

The so-called casual fans are what gives the sponsers the reason to do the sponsering. With just whatever the types that you class yourself as to watch there would be no sponsers no money no F1--twerp

Paulaweybridge · 29 Jul 2011, 18:11 (Ref:2932878)

Just have to keep the ear plugs in until you get home Adam ...

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I manage this all the time. Sunday is in the middle of the day is inconvenient. Even last weekend I managed to avoid the result and watch the recorded version as if live even though I had been at Silverstone watch F1 cars before they were the current spec. Formula.

davyboy · 29 Jul 2011, 18:18 (Ref:2932882)

Just listen to what this overpaid [by you] moron at the Beeb has to say about it here. Because they're not run as a commercial entity, they're unable to optimize their resources and haven't an iota on how to deploy cuts. They're the same as the councils, civil servants etc...

A question you have to ask yourself. If Formula One was so important that the Beeb had to outbid ITV for it, then invest hugely to create the best coverage around... how could this have caused a deterioration in importance to the point that the Beeb need to wriggle out of their contractual commitment ?

Let's not forget, this is an organization that sent 40 reporters to Chile to cover the evacuation of the miners there. Even the newsreader read the news from above the mine. This is how the Beeb goes about money saving.

davyboy · 29 Jul 2011, 18:19 (Ref:2932883)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

You mean that everyone who watches F1 on the BBC on every forum related to motorsport is enraged by this?

... and them too

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 18:25 (Ref:2932886)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

You're in a tiny minority there Adam... just about everyone on every forum related to motorsport is enraged by this.

This I realise, but are they really outraged or is it just like everything else where outrage and indignation is spouted. I can't tell the different, too much cry wolf.

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Originally Posted by Paulaweybridge

There's already a petition.

A petition, we're saved.

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Originally Posted by Paulaweybridge

Just have to keep the ear plugs in until you get home Adam ...

davyboy · 29 Jul 2011, 18:34 (Ref:2932891)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

This I realise, but are they really outraged or is it just like everything else where outrage and indignation is spouted. I can't tell the different, too much cry wolf.

I'm not sure I can tell the difference between real outrage and spouted outrage. All I can say is that this is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham. Now, is that real, spouted or a wolf cry

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2011, 18:36 (Ref:2932894)

He he

shy tot racing · 29 Jul 2011, 18:40 (Ref:2932899)

Just watched Slaters and poison dwarfs comments re F1/Trype TV.sorry Sky Tv. Not surprised they are both standing as they are talking through their arses

Wendy Wool · 29 Jul 2011, 18:50 (Ref:2932909)

Perhaps we should not be surprised by Ecclestones shock announcement, history shows that is his style with TV deals, witness BBC to ITV and back again.

Over recent years he has become a dictator and his aging judgement is failing and becoming more nasty, just recall the Britsih GP to Donington fiasco.

In every case his announcements are timed to shock and cause mayhem.

He has shafted just about everyone in the sport and now you can pay to watch a GP on Sky Sports at the price you can pay to enter the circuit not too long ago.

A deal by an man allegedly being connected with bribes dealing with a mogul whose businesses involved phone hacking of the deceased just about sums it up!

As the sport is far better of without Max Moseley, it would be far better off with Bernie, anyone know an assasin?

View Poll Results: Next year I will (chose the closest most likely option)
Watch live on BBC or Sky depending which it is on.	36	32.73%
Watch only BBC live or delayed/highlights.	48	43.64%
Watch only BBC live (live or not bother).	16	14.55%
Not watch, it is over for me.	10	9.09%
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