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17 Jun 2008, 08:54 (Ref:2230635)
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FBMW Europe - has it lost its way?
Since the move to a european series this year, I've heard little of the championship. Racing at GP weekends is good, but if the championship is so low-profile is it worth it?
what's the perception of this champioship in the rest of europe? |
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17 Jun 2008, 09:12 (Ref:2230655)
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it has been a while between races which has kept it out of the news which is a pity because there is so much other racing going on each weekend throughout europe - guess we should wait & see when there are a few races back to back before we can judge....
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17 Jun 2008, 09:25 (Ref:2230665)
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To be fair there have only been two races so far and only one of those was on the GP support in Spain - the other was a race at Zolder that was supposed to support the Champ Cars, but obviously they didn't come.
It's a busier summer so I am sure there will be more promotion, but it does seem to be a missed opportunity at the moment. |
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17 Jun 2008, 09:44 (Ref:2230674)
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The grid is full and has depth so the series is fine. Sure it could benefit from pan european TV coverage but then again so would GP2. Both Gp2 and Euro BMW have stuck to local broadcasters that have F1 rights, a good policy for some countries but bad for most of us.
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17 Jun 2008, 10:46 (Ref:2230701)
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28 drivers qualified at zolder, so #'s are very good
 - i didnt even know this round was run & won...
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17 Jun 2008, 11:00 (Ref:2230710)
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I don't doubt the series is currently strong - there was massive competition for the teams to get entries, which makes it all the more surprising that I haven't heard anything since!
I used to periodically keep up to date with FBMW UK via crash.net but they no longer have a FBMW section. I guess I'm was expecting more coverage for a high-profile manufacturer backed series which is supposed to be grooming the F1 stars of the future! |
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17 Jun 2008, 11:14 (Ref:2230723)
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I guess it would've got more publicity at Zolder if the Champcars had of run...
Next round (5 & 6) is at Silverstone with Formula 1... Points after 4 rounds... 1. Esteban Gutierrez - 104 2. Adrien Tambay - 92 3. Daniel Juncadella - 84 4. Marco Wittmann - 78 5. Carlos Huertas - 50 6. David Mengesdorf - 44 7. Mihai Marinescu - 36 8. Pedro Bianchini - 35 9. Kevin Breysse - 35 10. Doru Sechelariu - 27 |
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17 Jun 2008, 12:06 (Ref:2230752)
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17 Jun 2008, 16:39 (Ref:2231242)
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I've been dissapointed with the organisation and promotion of this series. Last years British championship was excellent, and very close.
This season it just seems abit all over the place |
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17 Jun 2008, 16:49 (Ref:2231250)
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BMW should have paid Eurosport to show the championship like Porsche do with the Supercup. I think at the moment Premiere in Germany is the only channel to show it live. All I have seen of it is the 5 minute FOM highlights shown on MotorsTV and before/after the GP2 race on ITV4.
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17 Jun 2008, 20:01 (Ref:2231393)
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Do you ever have motorsport dreams at night? : Down F0rce: "More than a few, but the strangest one was when Jos Verstappen and Enrique Bernoldi scored a one-two for Arrows and were apparantly so impressed by each other's driving, they sang "Wind Beneath My Wings" to each other in the press conference." Brilliant
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20 Jun 2008, 20:10 (Ref:2233729)
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They seem to have lost the plot in terms of costs. Next week there's a 2-day test in Hungary, which might be okay for the European based teams, but I feel very sorry for any from the UK.
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21 Jun 2008, 06:15 (Ref:2233866)
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It is a european series so the organisers can not possibly please everyone. Besides British teams are a minority, 3 out of 10.
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6 Jul 2008, 00:36 (Ref:2244851)
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Spanish driver Ramon Pineiro will start from pole position for both races at Silverstone - cant find any times anywhere
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6 Jul 2008, 00:49 (Ref:2244858)
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Qualifying from Italiaracing
1. fila Ramon Pineiro - Fortec – 1’51”712 Esteban Gutierrez - Kaufmann – 1’51”980 2. fila Adrien Tambay - Eifelland – 1’52”114 Michael Christensen - Raikkonen – 1’52”255 3. fila Pedro Bianchini - FMSI – 1’52”402 Daniel Juncadella - Eurointernational – 1’52”523 4. fila Marco Wittmann - Kaufmann – 1’52”580 Carlos Huertas - Raikkonen – 1’52”637 5. fila Mihai Marinescu - FMSI – 1’52”668 Facundo Regalia - Eurointernational – 1’52”762 6. fila Rupert Svendsen-Cook - Raikkonen – 1’52”851 Jordan Williams – Dams – 1’52”883 7. fila Kazeem Manzur - Kaufmann – 1’52”934 Doru Sechelariu - Fortec – 1’52”951 8. fila Jim Pla - Dams – 1’52”977 Ollie Millroy - FMSI – 1’52”979 9. fila Tiago Geronimi - Eifelland – 1’53”007 Giancarlo Vilarinho – Eurointernational – 1’53”019 10. fila David Mengesdorf - Mücke – 1’53”141 Bastian Graber - Holzer – 1’53”303 11. fila Kevin Breysse - Dams – 1’53”341 Jazeman Jaafar - Holzer – 1’53”358 12. fila William Buller - Fortec – 1’53”482 Thomas Hillsdon - Motaworld – 1’53”574 13. fila Mathijs Harkema - Motaworld – 1’53”608 Henrique Martins - Eifelland – 1’53”619 14. fila Juan Cevallos - Mücke – 1’52”897 Asad Rahman - Motaworld – 1’56”861 15. fila Velibor Jovanovic - Mücke – 1’59”599 |
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6 Jul 2008, 00:49 (Ref:2244859)
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Race 1
1 - Esteban Gutierrez - Kaufmann – 13 giri in 25’09”856 2 - Michael Christensen - Raikkonen – a 8”024 3 - Adrien Tambay - Eifelland – a 10”526 4 - Pedro Bianchini - FMSI – a 11”873 5 - Marco Wittmann - Kaufmann – 6 - Carlos Huertas - Raikkonen – 7 - Mihai Marinescu - FMSI – 8 - Daniel Juncadella - Eurointernational – 9 - Rupert Svendsen-Cook - Raikkonen – 10 - Kazeem Manzur - Kaufmann – 11 - Doru Sechelariu - Fortec – 12 - Facundo Regalia - Eurointernational – 13 - Henrique Martins - Eifelland – 14 - Jordan Williams – Dams – 15 - David Mengesdorf - Mücke – 16 - Mathijs Harkema - Motaworld – 17 - Jazeman Jaafar - Holzer – 18 - Thomas Hillsdon - Motaworld – 19 - Jim Pla - Dams – 20 - Giancarlo Vilarinho – Eurointernational- 21 - Ramon Pineiro - Fortec – 22 - Juan Cevallos - Mücke – 23 - Kevin Breysse - Dams – 24 - Ollie Millroy - FMSI – 25 - Asad Rahman - Motaworld – 26 - Bastian Graber - Holzer – 27 - Tiago Geronimi - Eifelland – |
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6 Jul 2008, 06:17 (Ref:2244948)
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He won by 8 seconds? In Formula BMW? Cripes...
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6 Jul 2008, 20:17 (Ref:2245722)
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To be fair, it was raining quite a bit.
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6 Jul 2008, 22:19 (Ref:2245835)
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Race 2
1 - Esteban Gutierrez - Kaufmann - 25:34.597 2 - Pedro Bianchini - FMSI - 25:45.192 3 - Adrien Tambay - Eifelland - 25:45.796 4 - Mihai Marinescu - FMSI - 25:46.255 5 - Marco Wittmann - Kaufmann - 25:50.725 6 - David Mengesdorf - Mucke - 25:59.206 7 - Daniel Juncadella - Eurointernational - 26:00.354 8 - Michael Christensen - Raikkonen - 26:03.593 9 - Rupert Svendsen-Cook - Raikkonen - 26:04.374 10 - Ollie Millroy - FMSI - 26:04.750 11 - Kazeem Manzur - Kaufmann - 26:08.211 12 - Jazeman Jaafar - Holzer - 26:09.757 13 - Mathijs Harkema - Motaworld - 26:10.132 14 - Thomas Hillsdon - Motaworld - 26:11.043 15 - Doru Sechelariu - Fortec - 26:12.807 16 - Carlos Huertas - Raikkonen - 26:14.861 17 - Jim Pla - Dams - 26:22.164 18 - Ramon Pineiro - Fortec - 26:29.186 19 - Henrique Martins - Eifelland - 26:34.987 20 - Giancarlo Vilarinho - Eurointernational - 26:35.740 21 - William Buller - Fortec - 26:37.189 22 - Bastian Graber - Holzer - 26:53.601 23 - Jordan Williams - Dams - 26:55.208 24 - Facundo Regalia - Eurointernational - 27:25.283 25 - Asad Rahman - Motaworld - 26:28.559 26 - Velibor Jovanovic - Mucke - 27:33.613 27 - Tiago Geronimi - Eifelland - 21:29.473 |
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7 Jul 2008, 11:24 (Ref:2246226)
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looking back to esteban things he has done, he is trying to be someone. hope he appears in macau gp for fbmw race.
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7 Jul 2008, 14:30 (Ref:2246384)
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Gutierrez was in a class of his own. His win on Saturday was impressive, but you could tell on Sunday in the pouring rain he was in a class of his own. I was stood at the Abbey chicane and you could hear his throttle control was perfect, whilst most others stamped on the pedal and spun heading down to Bridge. He looked totally in control. I bet he gets a shot for A1 Team Mexico later in the year.
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7 Jul 2008, 15:26 (Ref:2246425)
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The quality of the driving was very good all round - especially next to GP2 and F1 this weekend. I know they aren't as quick, but there is still plenty of room for error around Silverstone. And I didn't see a single bit (from what I could see anyway) of contact between drivers either...
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8 Jul 2008, 06:56 (Ref:2246859)
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Points after 6 rounds...
1. Esteban Gutierrez - 134 2. Adrien Tambay - 112 3. Daniel Juncadella - 94 4. Marco Wittmann - 94 5. Carlos Huertas - 64 6. Pedro Bianchini - 53 7. Mihai Marinescu - 48 8. David Mengesdorf - 45 9. Michael Christensen - 38 10. Kevin Breysse - 35 |
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9 Jul 2008, 15:30 (Ref:2248042)
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I have to agree! Given the age and experience, or lack of it, from a lot of the competitors I thought that driving standards were exemplary. There was some contact, but given the conditions, it was minor to say the least and I think just down to cars sliding in corners... I have to say I was dead impressed by all involved. |
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9 Jul 2008, 19:37 (Ref:2248184)
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Someone told me that FBMW wasn't listed on the timetable for Silverstone - can anyone confirm or deny this? |
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