[V8ST12R01] Hampton Downs - 17-19 Feb 2012 - Page 4

MrFBear · 20 Feb 2012, 20:21 (Ref:3028552)

You can view full coverage of Round One online at TV3's website - not geo-filtered so available internationally

Intro and Qualifying: http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Race 1: http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Race 2: http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Race 3: http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

on_to_it · 20 Feb 2012, 20:27 (Ref:3028553)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

That may explain Johnny Mac carrying lead weight in race 1?

Isn't that what everyone does? You weigh the car with minimal fuel (but not so low you get pick up problems) and ballast it up to just over minimum racing weight. Then calculate the fuel you'll use over race distance, add some for safety car delays, and you should be safe at race end when you scale it.

EZY PEEL · 21 Feb 2012, 06:35 (Ref:3028709)

Quote:

Originally Posted by on_to_it

Isn't that what everyone does? You weigh the car with minimal fuel (but not so low you get pick up problems) and ballast it up to just over minimum racing weight. Then calculate the fuel you'll use over race distance, add some for safety car delays, and you should be safe at race end when you scale it.

Saftey car laps are counted as racing laps so no extra required.

gpracing27 · 21 Feb 2012, 06:40 (Ref:3028710)

Overall a great weekend of racing helped in no small part by the weather. The 'winter' race may be a differant thing though.

Jerico · 21 Feb 2012, 07:56 (Ref:3028725)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

That may explain Johnny Mac carrying lead weight in race 1?

I think Johnny was using fuel as ballast on saturday for R1. Johnny was looking for lead sunday morning. His car was looking better in the sunday races.

DX20VT · 21 Feb 2012, 09:17 (Ref:3028745)

But when all the cars are built identical, how does one car end up needing so much weight added to it when others do not?

on_to_it · 21 Feb 2012, 09:21 (Ref:3028753)

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Originally Posted by EZY PEEL

Saftey car laps are counted as racing laps so no extra required.

Yes you're right. I was just thinking 'safety margin' in general.

MacrosNZ · 21 Feb 2012, 09:48 (Ref:3028776)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracie

Last race reduced to 30laps at request of Series Officials - something to do with "fuel burn"

I think you mean engine temps.

Jerico · 21 Feb 2012, 19:10 (Ref:3029057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DX20VT

But when all the cars are built identical, how does one car end up needing so much weight added to it when others do not?

Fords are lighter than the Holdens.

Speedwayracer44 · 21 Feb 2012, 19:20 (Ref:3029063)

Thnks, thats awsome I didnt get to see on speed so will watch tonight.

Speedwayracer44 · 21 Feb 2012, 19:21 (Ref:3029064)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacrosNZ

I think you mean engine temps.

At last someone got it right!

Mr Revhead · 21 Feb 2012, 19:27 (Ref:3029072)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerico

Fords are lighter than the Holdens.

Not sure if serious.....

Jerico · 21 Feb 2012, 20:22 (Ref:3029100)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Not sure if serious.....

Would I lie to you?

Seriously the Fords are lighter than the Holdens, nothing is ever simple, I think by around 40kg or so.

Mr Revhead · 21 Feb 2012, 21:08 (Ref:3029127)

How does that happen when they are identical?
do Holden doors weigh so much? Lol

MrFBear · 21 Feb 2012, 21:14 (Ref:3029131)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedwayracer44

Thnks, thats awsome I didnt get to see on speed so will watch tonight.

Will be going up every round, usually on the Monday morning or Tuesday if Monday is a public holiday

on_to_it · 21 Feb 2012, 21:55 (Ref:3029155)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

How does that happen when they are identical?
do Holden doors weigh so much? Lol

I think the Holdens are waiting for their composite bonnets, they ran heavier steel ones on the weekend.

Mr Revhead · 21 Feb 2012, 22:07 (Ref:3029163)

So even in a spec class. Fords are better? Hehehe

Are the bonnets not meant to be stock parts? I forget the list of stock body parts

on_to_it · 21 Feb 2012, 22:48 (Ref:3029187)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

So even in a spec class. Fords are better? Hehehe

Are the bonnets not meant to be stock parts? I forget the list of stock body parts

Not too sure, I just passed on what I heard in the pits. Is that info in the Build Manual?

Mr Revhead · 21 Feb 2012, 22:54 (Ref:3029188)

Posting via phone so cbf searching. Will do tonight. But from memory I thought grilles front bumpers bonnets and doors were stock parts.

promax · 21 Feb 2012, 23:08 (Ref:3029192)

Holden vs Ford

looks a bit different

on_to_it · 21 Feb 2012, 23:42 (Ref:3029200)

Quote:

looks a bit different

There ya go! Thanks PM

Jerico · 22 Feb 2012, 01:42 (Ref:3029228)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

How does that happen when they are identical?
do Holden doors weigh so much? Lol

LOL if you wish, but Fords are not identical to Holdens and never will be, they can be simular, but that still doesn't change the fact that there is a weight difference between the two cars. It's true that Fords ran the lighter composite bonnet last weekend and the Holdens ran the heavier steel bonnets, but this would only make about a 10kg diffence. Both cars are still waiting for the composite rear quaters to become available, which will not change the weight difference between the cars, but will make both cars lighter and faster.

The bottom line is that the Ford is lighter than the Holden, but everyone can dream and have their own thoughts on this issue.
But what ever people think, it doesn't change the fact and everything still remains the same.

Mr Revhead · 22 Feb 2012, 02:12 (Ref:3029234)

Yeah so be it.
But im just surprised as they have been portrayed as identical chassis. Would be interesting to know why the difference.

on_to_it · 22 Feb 2012, 02:22 (Ref:3029236)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

Yeah so be it.
But im just surprised as they have been portrayed as identical chassis. Would be interesting to know why the difference.

I doubt there's a conspiracy here Mr R, they ARE the same. Surely any weight difference can only be in the panels somewhere.

Mr Revhead · 22 Feb 2012, 02:34 (Ref:3029242)

Im not trying to imply a conspiracy.
Im genuinely asking and interested in knowing where the difference is. 40kg is a huge amount when talking modern body panels

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