2015 Pre Season Testing - Page 2

steve nielsen · 3 Feb 2015, 18:12 (Ref:3500510)

Day 3

1. Nasr Sauber C34 1:21.545 108 laps
2. Räikkönen Ferrari SF15-T 1:21.750 +0.205 92 laps
3. Rosberg Mercedes GP W06 1:21.982 +0.437 151 laps
4. Massa Williams FW37 1:22.276 +0.731 71 laps
5. Maldonado Lotus E23 1:22.713 +1.168 96 laps
6. Sainz jr Toro Rosso STR10 1:23.187 +1.642 136 laps
7. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB11 1:23.920 +2.375 48 laps
8. Alonso McLaren MP4-30 1:35.553 +14.008 32 laps

Sauber I.S.O sponsors?

P38 in workshop · 3 Feb 2015, 18:48 (Ref:3500521)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

Day 3

1. Nasr Sauber C34 1:21.545 108 laps
2. Räikkönen Ferrari SF15-T 1:21.750 +0.205 92 laps
3. Rosberg Mercedes GP W06 1:21.982 +0.437 151 laps
4. Massa Williams FW37 1:22.276 +0.731 71 laps
5. Maldonado Lotus E23 1:22.713 +1.168 96 laps
6. Sainz jr Toro Rosso STR10 1:23.187 +1.642 136 laps
7. Ricciardo Red Bull Racing RB11 1:23.920 +2.375 48 laps
8. Alonso McLaren MP4-30 1:35.553 +14.008 32 laps

Sauber I.S.O sponsors?

Without a doubt.Additionally,I doubt whether the ICE's in Nasr's or Raikkonen's cars will form part of the years allocation-or am I just cynical in these matters.

**BertMk2** · 3 Feb 2015, 20:34 (Ref:3500565)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Really don't like the Size Zero reference. It's insensitive on all sorts of levels.

I agree it's a bit odd - generally size zero is not a good thing - "too thin" springs to mind. Along with all the body image issues that are associated with size zero it's an odd angle to go for.

dsg · 4 Feb 2015, 01:33 (Ref:3500667)

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Originally Posted by Casper

I could drive a truck through the holes in that regulation.

But not the spirit of the regulation.

Anything I don't like I will class as a "movable aerodynamic device" outside of the regulations and will ban it.

fredd1 · 4 Feb 2015, 04:18 (Ref:3500697)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Speck front and rear wings ....

So easy Jeremy. So obvious too. You'd have to wonder why not?

fredd1 · 4 Feb 2015, 04:19 (Ref:3500698)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Really don't like the Size Zero reference. It's insensitive on all sorts of levels.

Especially the little too precious one.......

Notso Swift · 4 Feb 2015, 06:39 (Ref:3500720)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Speck front and rear wings ....

mmm, Bacon

Knowlesy · 4 Feb 2015, 07:41 (Ref:3500725)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

I agree it's a bit odd - generally size zero is not a good thing - "too thin" springs to mind. Along with all the body image issues that are associated with size zero it's an odd angle to go for.

Tbf, I think most people can separate a size zero car from a size zero person.

Are 'coke bottle' rear ends linked to tooth decay and heart disease?

And if they can't, well, the McLaren is incapable of actually doing anything so it acts as something of a warning.

**BertMk2** · 4 Feb 2015, 08:17 (Ref:3500734)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Tbf, I think most people can separate a size zero car from a size zero person.

True - but you wouldn't use the hashtag #hitler to describe a team that "get's things done" (can't remember who it was used that description of Hitler but you get the point).

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Are 'coke bottle' rear ends linked to tooth decay and heart disease?

No - but it's lawsuit waiting to happen for trademark infringement

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

And if they can't, well, the McLaren is incapable of actually doing anything so it acts as something of a warning.

Not entirely true - they are capable of putting a positive spin on the fact that they done less mileage than anyone else and are doing a good job of ending Hondas reputation for building reliable engines

VTEC have never had an engine failure you know....

chris bailey · 4 Feb 2015, 14:24 (Ref:3500838)

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Originally Posted by Notso Swift

mmm, Bacon

If you put a slice of bread either side, you'd have a triple-element bacon sandwich wing. Much more modern, and delicious to boot....!

Knowlesy · 4 Feb 2015, 14:55 (Ref:3500854)

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Originally Posted by chris bailey

If you put a slice of bread either side, you'd have a triple-element bacon sandwich wing. Much more modern, and delicious to boot....!

Think of the vegetarians ffs!

steve nielsen · 4 Feb 2015, 16:06 (Ref:3500872)

Day 4

1. Räikkönen Ferrari SF15-T 1:20.841 106 laps
2. Ericsson Sauber C34 1:22.019 +1.178 112 laps
3. Hamilton Mercedes GP W06 1:22.172 +1.331 117 laps
4. Verstappen Toro Rosso STR10 1:22.553 +1.712 97 laps
5. Massa Williams FW37 1:23.116 +2.275 73 laps
6. Grosjean Lotus E23 1:23.802 +2.961 53 laps
7. Kvyat Red Bull Racing RB11 1:23.975 +3.134 64 laps
8. Button McLaren MP4-30 1:27.660 +6.819 35 laps

Inigo Montoya · 4 Feb 2015, 16:10 (Ref:3500875)

Both Kimi and Seb seem happy with the car. Both the Ferrari and the Sauber are going well. This is a promising start. They must have used all their engine tokens already! But I expect Mercedes will unleash their true potential at the next testing session, and the result will be depressing for fans wishing to see a battle between differently coloured cars this season.

steve nielsen · 4 Feb 2015, 16:17 (Ref:3500881)

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Originally Posted by Inigo Montoya

Both Kimi and Seb seem happy with the car. Both the Ferrari and the Sauber are going well. This is a promising start. They must have used all their engine tokens already! But I expect Mercedes will unleash their true potential at the next testing session, and the result will be depressing for fans wishing to see a battle between differently coloured cars this season.

Sauber where running low on fuel to do those times and Ericsson ran out of fuel in his last run.

(no really, he did)

Inigo Montoya · 4 Feb 2015, 16:20 (Ref:3500884)

I don't doubt it Steve! Its early, and its testing, etc etc. But its still a nice start for them. I have been reading 80 hp more for the new PU. But another 50 hp for the Merc. That would put them something like 0.5 s behind the Mercs in reality. We'll see....

steve nielsen · 4 Feb 2015, 16:56 (Ref:3500901)

times and laps per team:

Fastes times
1. Ferrari (Raikkonen day 4) - 1:20.841
2. Sauber (Nasr day 3) - 1:21.545
3. Mercedes (Rosberg day 3) - 1:21.982
4. Williams (Massa day 3) - 1:22.276
5. Scuderia Toro Rosso (Verstappen day 4) - 1:22.553
6. Lotus (Maldonado day 3) - 1:22.713
7. Red Bull Racing (Ricciardo day 1) - 1:23.338
8. McLaren (Button day 4) - 1:27.660

laps teams:
1. Mercedes - 516 laps
2. Sauber - 382 laps
3. Toro Rosso - 353 laps
4. Ferrari - 349 laps
5. Williams - 278 laps
6. Lotus - 190 laps
7. Red Bull Racing - 166 laps
8. McLaren - 79 laps

laps engine suppliers
1. Mercedes (3 teams) - 984 laps
2. Ferrari (2 teams) - 731 laps
3. Renault (2 teams) - 519 laps
4. Honda (1 team) - 79 laps

Tucky · 4 Feb 2015, 21:57 (Ref:3501016)

Force India are now saying their 2015 car probably won't be ready for the second test and will run the 2014 car instead. I guess the "learning opportunities" in the 2014 car suddenly got better...

ECW Dan Selby · 4 Feb 2015, 21:59 (Ref:3501017)

lol Not surprised to hear Ericsson run out of fuel. Was pretty obvious that Sauber was doing what it could to attract sponsors. Never forget Prost in 2000 (?)....

Still, though - that's a good amount of laps clocked up by the team, i'll give them that. That can't be a bad thing.

It's pretty safe to say that with only 18 cars on the grid, the team won't have another 'point'less year if they can clock up that kind of mileage.

And they do have one competent driver, at least.

Selby

TrapezeArtist · 4 Feb 2015, 23:30 (Ref:3501054)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Speck front and rear wings ....

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Originally Posted by Casper

Or get rid of them altogether, there's a radical idea.

I would love that: that's the speck (sic): no wings.

TrapezeArtist · 4 Feb 2015, 23:34 (Ref:3501057)

So the burning question is: are Ferrari really that quick or are they cooking the books to look good?

Based on past years when they were in a similar state of structural chaos and trouble, they are probably
a) running underweight
b) running an engine that wouldn't pass scrutineering
or
c) both

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 4 Feb 2015, 23:45 (Ref:3501060)

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Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

So the burning question is: are Ferrari really that quick or are they cooking the books to look good?

Based on past years when they were in a similar state of structural chaos and trouble, they are probably
a) running underweight
b) running an engine that wouldn't pass scrutineering
or
c) both

The cars have to be legal to run in testing these days, so I doubt its anything as blatant as that.

Remember Red Bull had to go to Jo Bauer and get permission to run without the front wing on the car.

Knowlesy · 4 Feb 2015, 23:56 (Ref:3501064)

The vibes seem to be good at Ferrari. They have almost certainly come on in leaps and bounds but, let's face it, they couldn't fail to really.

Of course, now the stage is set for the cigarette man and the Red Bull runaway to claim the credit.

Alonso will be somewhat hacked off I imagine.

ECW Dan Selby · 5 Feb 2015, 01:44 (Ref:3501108)

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Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

So the burning question is: are Ferrari really that quick or are they cooking the books to look good?

Based on past years when they were in a similar state of structural chaos and trouble, they are probably
a) running underweight
b) running an engine that wouldn't pass scrutineering
or
c) both

I want them to be quick, but with Mercedes seemingly on cruise control (much alike 2014), I can't help but feel they'll be about where they were last year - ie. middle of nowhere. Not at the front, not at the back.

Selby

F1Pete · 5 Feb 2015, 02:24 (Ref:3501122)

With Kimi being on top of the timesheets, looks like he is well on his way to be the 2015 F1 champion.

steve nielsen · 5 Feb 2015, 08:45 (Ref:3501227)

Renault have said their engines where not running at full power yet, the Renault teams will have more power in Barcelona.

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