WEC 2015 WEC Discussion - Page 65

Deleted · 11 Sep 2015, 19:50 (Ref:3573248)

Actually they've had all of those breaks at every race already this year (except at Silverstone the flow was 104,9), the only thing that actually keeps changing is the energy but does that really count considering it rotates on factory ERS classes as well depending on circuit. This keeps happening, it's like if every time S365 (and DSC inside articles) see the new uploaded PDF on FIA site they report it as if some new grand thing even though nothing has actually happened. FIA just has obligation to release those files separately

In conclusion the article is pointless. Again...

Specialist media has been AWFUL for privateer P1 this year, not only this lame and continuing inaccuracy but some still call it LMP1-L, some don't but at the same time claim they are now fully integrated to the factory cars, then they say no separate podiums anymore etc etc etc... yeah right

TF110 · 12 Sep 2015, 01:05 (Ref:3573287)

Its been 75L tank size right? 106.5kg/h is a little bit of a jump.

Deleted · 12 Sep 2015, 01:28 (Ref:3573293)

It's been like that in flow too since Spa so nothing is going to change

I wish they'd just go back to 800kg of last year but we know why that was reverted, because of Kolles

TF110 · 12 Sep 2015, 18:20 (Ref:3573405)

So whats the mj/lap % related to the factory cars? Thats the telling factor if theres an actual change.

Victor_RO · 8 Oct 2015, 08:24 (Ref:3580465)

One BR01 to boost the entry list for Bahrain:

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/a...1-for-bahrain/

rich07 · 26 Oct 2015, 23:07 (Ref:3585821)

Danish Aston pulled for Shanghai due to BOP concerns

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/y...-bop-concerns/

Coach Ep · 27 Oct 2015, 00:02 (Ref:3585832)

Aston Martin are turning into an incredible bunch of whiners...

J Jay · 27 Oct 2015, 00:29 (Ref:3585838)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Aston Martin are turning into an incredible bunch of whiners...

Turning?

chernaudi · 27 Oct 2015, 01:19 (Ref:3585845)

To paraphase from an episode of Beetlejuice the animated series:

AMR, come clean...

Akrapovic · 27 Oct 2015, 09:19 (Ref:3585915)

Aston Martin always seem to have an unrealistically high performance car, and they throw races away through mistakes. See Le Mans this year. That car dominated and still lost.

tux · 27 Oct 2015, 18:58 (Ref:3586038)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Aston Martin are turning into an incredible bunch of whiners...

Young Driver pulled the car not Aston Martin.

Sure AMR have complained about the BOP but they arent responsible for withdrawing the car.

chernaudi · 27 Oct 2015, 19:55 (Ref:3586047)

Which of the Aston Martin teams are owned by AMR/Prodrive and which are independent? They're all sponsored by Gulf and all the cars are built and maintained by Prodrive and AMR, right?

tux · 27 Oct 2015, 20:48 (Ref:3586060)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Which of the Aston Martin teams are owned by AMR/Prodrive and which are independent? They're all sponsored by Gulf and all the cars are built and maintained by Prodrive and AMR, right?

Its confusing, some of the cars are owned by private people and run by private teams under the AMR banner. The idea is that AMR & Gulf get the prestige and advertising and the owners/teams get a % of their budget covered by AMR & Gulf.

For example #95 is owned by Jan Struve and run Young Driver
#96 is owned by the ROFGO collection

Last year #99 was run by Craft-Bamboo this year i think its moved in house to AMR

TF110 · 27 Oct 2015, 21:02 (Ref:3586062)

Sometimes its best to get the facts before criticizing a whole company. Aston does have a history of bop complaints, but this example isn't the whole of AM.

chernaudi · 27 Oct 2015, 21:20 (Ref:3586064)

When you have a history, it can come back to haunt you. Though him putting Dumas into the wall at PLM wasn't premeditated and was just a racing accident, Montagny was blacklisted from ACO-style prototype racing by most teams after that deal because his past did catch up with him.

The teams are all managed and supported by Prodrive/AMR even if some of the teams are independently owned, and the fact that AMR got a ton of breaks a couple of years ago that have been rolled back this year does smear them in the court of public opinion, even if some of their complaints have merit.

cokata · 27 Oct 2015, 21:25 (Ref:3586066)

Story of the 2015 season

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-27-2015/qP6rhf.gif

CTD · 27 Oct 2015, 22:16 (Ref:3586067)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

Its confusing, some of the cars are owned by private people and run by private teams under the AMR banner. The idea is that AMR & Gulf get the prestige and advertising and the owners/teams get a % of their budget covered by AMR & Gulf.

For example #95 is owned by Jan Struve and run Young Driver
#96 is owned by the ROFGO collection

Last year #99 was run by Craft-Bamboo this year i think its moved in house to AMR

I was sure that the Young Driver was owned by Jac Nelleman?
It is his involvement which made the original Dane train.

tux · 28 Oct 2015, 10:34 (Ref:3586164)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTD

I was sure that the Young Driver was owned by Jac Nelleman?
It is his involvement which made the original Dane train.

You are right, i was getting confused with the Young Driver DBR9s.

Rodger Davies · 30 Oct 2015, 08:35 (Ref:3586589)

Bradley has been penalised for the accident with Yacaman, G-Drive are the victims, not the guilty. What?!

MoMedic9019 · 30 Oct 2015, 17:47 (Ref:3586707)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Bradley has been penalised for the accident with Yacaman, G-Drive are the victims, not the guilty. What?!

All a matter of what the data showed.

Deleted · 31 Oct 2015, 16:13 (Ref:3586884)

Or exchange of favors. Pierre Fillion just made a deal with Oak to run in Vdev...

Akrapovic · 31 Oct 2015, 17:22 (Ref:3586904)

Young Driver pulled their entry because they're not happy with the BOP. Meanwhile there's an Aston sitting on the class pole.

tux · 31 Oct 2015, 17:28 (Ref:3586906)

Aston usually is strong in GTE AM though due to the driver lineups. Having said that the pace of the Astons in the PRO class is not as bad as they (Aston) make out.

Deleted · 31 Oct 2015, 17:50 (Ref:3586912)

Their crying is even funnier when you consider their Frankenstein has actually gained +0,2mm air restrictor since Ring, as well as still having given bigger fuel tank capacity and bigger fuel flow restrictor than all the others.

Starfish Primer · 31 Oct 2015, 21:43 (Ref:3586977)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Their crying is even funnier when you consider their Frankenstein has actually gained +0,2mm air restrictor since Ring, as well as still having given bigger fuel tank capacity and bigger fuel flow restrictor than all the others.

Dalla Lana in Sportscar365:

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**Paul Dalla Lana is planning a return to the FIA WEC next year, although his exact program has yet to be finalized, in the wake of the Aston Martin’s recent struggles with Balance of Performance. “It’s hard,” he told Sportscar365. “I’m just trying to make sure we have a fighting chance. I’m hoping it gets worked out.”

Apparently it was the BOP what caused the crash in the 22nd hour at Le Mans with a 1 lap advantage over the SMP Ferrari.

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