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View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden 6 14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford 0 0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden 0 0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford 1 2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden 0 0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford 22 53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden 0 0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden 0 0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden 0 0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden 1 2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden 0 0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden 0 0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford 0 0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford 4 9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford 1 2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden 2 4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden 1 2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford 0 0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden 0 0%
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 08:51 (Ref:3759116)   #701
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I'd have to agree on Stanaway doing a year in Super2. I cant see him getting a main game drive next year so a year in Super2 could actually work out well for him. He learns the car (yes I know hes shown pace but miles under the belt always helps) and the tracks. If he comes out next year and belts everyone, it'll strengthen his case for a seat in the top series.

Don' t take any notice of people with missing teeth at QR, if they're not there then you're not at QR. Stay classy Ipswich.

Enough with the yelling.

Its quite well known that BOLD means yelling or ANGER online..turn off the caps lock mate. Nothing wrong with passion but hey you can get your point across without screaming at someone in that matter.

Look at Peckstar he's a pro at tearing other peoples posts apart and insulting them-all without using caps lock. Hows that for skill?
I agree. Stanaway will benefit.

I didn't intend for the bold to be yelling as I was genuinely just having an opinion. It wasn't so much anger at anyone here, but I can see what you mean, it does come across as possible hostility.

As for QR, not suprising really that there was the bogans there. I live about an hour or so away and there is a few bogan areas around, Logan, Miami, some in Ipswich.
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3759121)   #702
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I think Stanaway would do really well in the main game . He has a resume few rookies can match. Be interesting to see how he goes this weekend in the Super 2 races, expectations may be high?
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 10:15 (Ref:3759123)   #703
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I think Stanaway would do really well in the main game . He has a resume few rookies can match. Be interesting to see how he goes this weekend in the Super 2 races, expectations may be high?
I'd say he will do alright, but I hope expectations aren't too high, if gets a top 10 he will be in good touch.

The thought of him in the series is a good thing, but I hope reason is used and if he needs time then does it. Richo7 said it, milage in super 2 is a great thing for him
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 10:22 (Ref:3759125)   #704
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He will be top 3


I'd backhik for the win given the opportunity
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 10:54 (Ref:3759132)   #705
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Dont get all the buzz about stanaway. Had a great drive on a drying track on slicks at sandown Afew open wheeler championship a while back, but mid pack at bathurst, no real stand out.

I will look forward to seeing him at SMP before i remotely believe any hype
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 11:05 (Ref:3759135)   #706
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Dont get all the buzz about stanaway. Had a great drive on a drying track on slicks at sandown Afew open wheeler championship a while back, but mid pack at bathurst, no real stand out.

I will look forward to seeing him at SMP before i remotely believe any hype
He has talent for sure but a season or two developing couldn't do any bad for him
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 11:09 (Ref:3759136)   #707
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I shake my head



The guy has pedigree in spades.


If the 26 main game spots were based on ability and want of being on the grid then he makes it in easily.
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 11:28 (Ref:3759140)   #708
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The guy has pedigree in spades.


If the 26 main game spots were based on ability and want of being on the grid then he makes it in easily.
great, if its in spades it should be easy to tell me what they are, certainly my sources are showing mid pack, But i await your spades
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 11:44 (Ref:3759142)   #709
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If Supercars testing wasn't so overly restricted I'd say Stanaway could slot straight into the main series, but with that in mind I think a year in Super 2 combined with Enduros and a Wildcard or two would be a much better introduction.

Also give PRA a great chance to have essentially a classic AA driver combination for the enduros.
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 11:57 (Ref:3759145)   #710
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If Supercars testing wasn't so overly restricted I'd say Stanaway could slot straight into the main series, but with that in mind I think a year in Super 2 combined with Enduros and a Wildcard or two would be a much better introduction.

Also give PRA a great chance to have essentially a classic AA driver combination for the enduros.
Test days only do so much though. The best way as you said is the development series
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 12:02 (Ref:3759146)   #711
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The guy has pedigree in spades.


If the 26 main game spots were based on ability and want of being on the grid then he makes it in easily.

Obviously he has talent, no one is saying he doesn't. Take some time and read what we are saying. To truly unlock his potential a year in development with PRA would do the world of good.

1. He gets an idea of what a V8 Supercar handles like in sprint mode
2. He gets a feel for the team dynamics
3. He will learn a thing or two from the likes of Dumbrell
4. Its good mileage for his ENDURO campaign. Either way he wont have a drive next year. Best he gets some V8 miles.
5. He will get a feel for the heat factor. A V8 heats up a lot more then open wheel. He will feel what its like and adapt. Wont take long but better then just jumping in next year and doing 78 laps around Clipsal in 55 degrees

You cant compare open wheel to V8s either, the majority of it is chalk and cheese.
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3759147)   #712
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I've heard his attitude is quite damaging and he's very difficult to work with. The hsv might be a bit of a dog but he's still quite a lot slower than Courtney.
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I have heard Courtney is, but not Scotty. Fabian said to someone at the Gold Coast event last year that he was happy with the team(mate) chemistry but they just weren't on the pace
So Courtney's personality is somewhat like Ingall's?
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 12:18 (Ref:3759148)   #713
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So Courtney's personality is somewhat like Ingall's?
Possibly, don't know a lot about Ingall as a team mate. I think he was just a second driver too Ambrose (who is an imbecilic driver) and deserved more
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 12:27 (Ref:3759150)   #714
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So Courtney's personality is somewhat like Ingall's?


He likes boats and boat related contra?
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 12:57 (Ref:3759151)   #715
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He likes boats and boat related contra?
That's a point, but so does Jamie Whincup and I wouldn't say Jamie has an attitude problem or ego
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Old 13 Aug 2017, 22:03 (Ref:3759221)   #716
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Possibly, don't know a lot about Ingall as a team mate. I think he was just a second driver too Ambrose (who is an imbecilic driver) and deserved more
Wow... i'm guessing you weren't around in 2005, or the 10 or so years before that

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Old 14 Aug 2017, 02:16 (Ref:3759230)   #717
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I think Stanaway would do really well in the main game . He has a resume few rookies can match. Be interesting to see how he goes this weekend in the Super 2 races, expectations may be high?
People said this about the Frenchie too, and in sprint mode he really never shone, but has shown himself to be an excellent enduro driver.

Stanaway did drive a fantastic race and has pedigree but lets not underestimate the difficulty and closeness of our home-grown series.
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Former champion, in the mix for around 10 years, 2-time Bathurst winner, was a highly-regarded international open-wheeler driver prior.

Yep, Ingall is clearly an imbecile.
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I think mceci is referring to Ambrose being an imbecile driver...which is baffling
He had his moments in the latter part of his Supercars career (before he came back after Nascar) but to call him an imbecile driver is a bit uncalled for. Imbeciles don't become multiple series champions nor win multiple Nascar races...
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I think he was just a second driver too Ambrose
And yet Ingall was signed to SBR alongside Ambrose with the expectation that Ingall would be the star leading the blue oval charge
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I must be getting old. I don't even understand half the rubbish written by the younger brigade round here anymore. You've got the internet. Do some research, use spellcheck and come back when you can string a decipherable sentence together. Rant over.
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Interesting to hear that both Prodrive/Tickford and DJR Team Penske are still running Falcons next year with no definite plans to introduce a new Ford. Most likely because they haven't got direct factory support but then again, Erebus introduced a Mercedes without direct factory support and both Prodrive/Tickford and Johnson-Penske are better off financially and got more and better tools to introduce a new body style and possibly a new type of engine.
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Old 19 Aug 2017, 22:16 (Ref:3760461)   #723
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Not sure PRA has more money than Betty at the start of 2013, they burnt a Huge amount of cash on that Benz program for next to no results.
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Interesting to hear that both Prodrive/Tickford and DJR Team Penske are still running Falcons next year with no definite plans to introduce a new Ford. Most likely because they haven't got direct factory support but then again, Erebus introduced a Mercedes without direct factory support and both Prodrive/Tickford and Johnson-Penske are better off financially and got more and better tools to introduce a new body style and possibly a new type of engine.
The Ford teams can't introduce any new Ford until Ford themselves give their tick of approval to VASC, regardless of whether they make a financial contribution or not. If the Ford boardroom knows what they will be doing beyond 2018, then they haven't made it public yet.
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Dont get all the buzz about stanaway. Had a great drive on a drying track on slicks at sandown Afew open wheeler championship a while back, but mid pack at bathurst, no real stand out.

I will look forward to seeing him at SMP before i remotely believe any hype


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