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Old 9 Apr 2005, 11:42 (Ref:1273927)   #1
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
BTCC: Donington Park

Second practice is underway now...but from first this morning

(MST not giving all the details sadly at the moment)

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1. Neal           Honda Integra           1:12.852
2. Eaves          Honda Integra           1:12.905
3. Collard        MG-ZS                   1:12.987
4. Smith          Vauxhall Astra SH
5. Plato          Seat Toledo
6. Turkington     Vauxhall Astra SH
7. Pickford       Seat Toledo
8. Muller         Vauxhall Astra SH
9. Hines          Seat Toledo
10. Kaye          Honda Civic
11. Proctor       Vauxhall Astra Coupé
12. Williams      Lexus IS200
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 12:47 (Ref:1273957)   #2
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There aren't really only 12 cars running are there?
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 13:18 (Ref:1273977)   #3
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Yes, that is all there is.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 14:38 (Ref:1274021)   #4
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For the first rounds last year we started with 20 cars. It's looks unusual to see so few running. At this rate the last person in race 2 will be on pole for race 3!!
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 14:47 (Ref:1274024)   #5
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Pathetic really, I hope TOCA have some idea what went wrong, and how to fix ti for later in the year. It'll look terrible for any TV viewers tomorrow.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:01 (Ref:1274034)   #6
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Wow, that's awful. Sad to see the series has declined so much Haven't really kept up with off-season events I must admit so this comes as a bit of a shock.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:03 (Ref:1274036)   #7
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This is absolutely appalling. A disgrace, in fact.

They should surely run the SEAT Cupra cup as a Class B of the BTCC to make the fields look respectable - there's a pitiful entry in that too.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:06 (Ref:1274039)   #8
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I know, it looks horrible. I'm still going to complain that there are too MANY in the WTCC too though!

What went wrong is half the cars that are supposed to turn up withdrew or haven't got their act together yet (MG 2nd car, GA Motorsport, TechSpeed, Arena).

Hopefully with a bit of coaxing, VX & Seat, and maybe Team Dynamics can organise 3/4 car efforts again to keep the grid up.

Anyway...practice 2:

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01   M Neal           Team Halfords        Honda Integra Type-R       1:12.449
02   Y Muller         VX Racing            Vauxhall Astra SH          1:12.646
03   R Collard        West Surrey Racing   MG-ZS                      1:12.659
04   C Turkington     VX Racing            Vauxhall Astra SH          1:12.730
05   J Plato          Seat Sport UK        Seat Toledo Cupra          1:12.770
06   G Smith          VX Racing            Vauxhall Astra SH          1:12.861
07   J Kaye           Syncho Motorsport    Honda Civic Type-R         1:12.908
08   D Eaves          Team Halfords        Honda Integra Type-R       1:12.960
09   J Pickford       Seat Sport UK        Seat Toledo Cupra          1:13.168
10   L Hines          Seat Sport UK        Seat Toledo Cupra          1:13.206
11   M Proctor        Fast-Tec Motorsport  Vauxhall Astra Coupé       1:15.769
12   R Williams       HPI Racing w/Friends Lexus IS200                 No time
At this rate, the Lexus might not even be on the grid...gearbox issues...
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:33 (Ref:1274060)   #9
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HOT OF THE PRESS !!!

http://www.motorsport-images.com/btcc05donington.html

latest pics from the morning qualifying , have yet to go through the rest of them but please enjoy whats there already

thanks all Tony
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:34 (Ref:1274062)   #10
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Turkington has taken pole!
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:41 (Ref:1274065)   #11
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1 6 Colin TURKINGTON Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch 1:12.092 14 97.74
2 5 I Matt NEAL Honda Integra 1:12.149 19 0.057 97.66
3 2 Yvan MULLER Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch 1:12.173 19 0.081 97.63
4 8 I Dan EAVES Honda Integra 1:12.421 20 0.329 97.29
5 21 I Rob COLLARD MG ZS 1:12.548 20 0.456 97.12
6 11 Jason PLATO SEAT Toledo Cupra 1:12.639 17 0.547 97.00
7 10 I James KAYE Honda Civic Type-R 1:13.029 13 0.937 96.48
8 57 Luke HINES SEAT Toledo Cupra 1:13.119 14 1.027 96.36
9 88 Gavin SMITH Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch 1:13.129 15 1.037 96.35
10 12 James PICKFORD SEAT Toledo Cupra 1:13.132 18 1.040 96.35
11 77 I Richard WILLIAMS Lexus IS200 1:19.510 15 7.418 88.62
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:42 (Ref:1274066)   #12
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So now we've lost Mark Proctor... Anyone know why?
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:45 (Ref:1274069)   #13
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Engine problems. Hopefully resolved by tomorrow. He should be able to get past that Lexus. If one car drops out in race two, he'll have pole!

If you DNF but are classified 10th etc. do they count that as pole when they reverse it? Don't think it ever got that low last year.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:46 (Ref:1274070)   #14
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Well that's my decision made then... think I'll stay home and start on the garden renovation
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 15:57 (Ref:1274076)   #15
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01	C Turkington	VX Racing		Vauxhall Astra SH	 1:12.092  
02	M Neal		Team Halfords		Honda Integra Type-R	 1:12.149  
03	Y Muller	VX Racing		Vauxhall Astra SH	 1:12.173  
04	D Eaves		Team Halfords		Honda Integra Type-R	 1:12.421  
05	R Collard	West Surrey Racing	MG-ZS	 		 1:12.548  
06	J Plato		Seat Sport UK		Seat Toledo Cupra	 1:12.639  
07	J Kaye		Syncho Motorsport	Honda Civic Type-R	 1:13.029  
08	L Hines		Seat Sport UK		Seat Toledo Cupra	 1:13.119  
09	G Smith		VX Racing		Vauxhall Astra SH	 1:13.129  
10	J Pickford	Seat Sport UK		Seat Toledo Cupra	 1:13.132  
11	R Williams	HPI Racing w/Friends	Lexus IS200		 1:19.510
12      M Proctor       Fast-Tec Motorsport     Vauxhall Astra Coupé      No time
13      N Mansell       Prodrive                Ford Mondeo              2:82.282
14      T Chilton       MG Motorsport           MG-ZT                    3:32.383
15      P Dumbreck      VX Racing               Vauxhall Vectra Diesel   4:24.383
16      J George        Mardi Gras		Peugeot 407 (Hydrogen)   5:23.595
17      E Irvine        Sinclair Motorsport     Sinclair C5 Hatchback    6:92.473
18      J Cleland       Vauxhall Motorsport     Vauxhall Cavalier GTi    7:82.927
19      N Lauda         Lauda Motorsport        Audi A3 Sports Hatch     8:23.484
20      J Watson        Lauda Motorsport  	Audi A3 Sports Hatch     8:35.443
21	T Harvey	*Not allowed to say*    BMW 320i E30		 9:23.842
22      F Hairuman      Still Last Racing       Ford Falcon BA V8       10:23.484
Already posted, but hey.

Maybe the Seat thing will have to happen for this race. Wasn't that a last minute 'stick together' they did in 2000 anyway? (The Production class running with the touring class...when the touring class only had 10 cars)

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Old 9 Apr 2005, 16:13 (Ref:1274085)   #16
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11 or 12 cars? That's unbelievable! Like Knockhill Fan I'd not kept up with BTCC news in the off-season, myself being a single-seater follower first and foremost. I tend to only pick up with the BTCC once it's in front of me on a TV screen.

When I saw MST only listing what seemed like half the field, I assumed the site was just playing up (which it has been today). But now I see that really is the case... How on earth did things decline so quickly? Surely their only option is to combine the grids by adding the pathetically small Cupra field as has been said.

I was planning on going to Thruxton, mainly to see the F.Renault and BMW support races, but now that trip looks like seriously poor value for money - especially looking at the size of the Porsche field too, and the Clios to a lesser extent

Surely this will hit gate numbers badly, and for TV viewers a day vegging out in front of Motors TV isn't quite as tempting anymore...
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1274091)   #17
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I'm not excited at all now. And it will look awful on ITV live as people have said.
I was planning on going to Donington tomorrow, instead im off to Kimbolton to watch some karting, much bigger grids and just as good.

Nothing else to say, pathetic.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 16:38 (Ref:1274095)   #18
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Too much knocking before seeing here....

I don't recall seeing much more on TV than two Honda's, two Seat's, 3 Vauxhall's and a pair of MG's fighting for the top 10 last year...I don't foresee anything different (excep one more Honda with Kaye, one less MG and one more Seat).

It's all the mid-field/back markers that have run off...trackside I know this size grid will look bad, but I'm curious to see how much of it the camera will hide.

Outside of Proctor & Williams, the fields darn close...I still expect a few good races tomorrow...shall we wait?
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 16:42 (Ref:1274098)   #19
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Looking forward to a great year..... Not!!!!

Just seen the results of the practise and qualifying...

What a joke! 11, maybe 12 cars... 2 of which (ie both Integras) you can't buy in this country (officially in the eyes of the manufacturer)

In the 2nd race, even if you have a problem and have a bit of luck theres a good chance you could end up on pole for the 3rd race...

I could go on... but...
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 17:07 (Ref:1274117)   #21
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Outside of Proctor & Williams, the fields darn close...I still expect a few good races tomorrow...shall we wait?
I'm sure that the races will be very entertaining. But that doesn't make the size grid any less disappointing, and with a thin look to the support package a BTCC meeting looks rather less attractive than it should do.
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 17:44 (Ref:1274141)   #22
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I hope Alan Gow is reading this... This too is putting me off going to a Touring car race this year, what if theres a large start line crash and some teams can't repair their cars? A grid of 9? Then expect a few to retire due to accidents... you could see a race finishing with just 6 cars... I don't expect that to be too exciting!

This is really depressing, and nothing is going to happen about it in the short term, very frustrating!
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Old 9 Apr 2005, 17:50 (Ref:1274151)   #23
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Very disappointing

this is just awful hardly worth getting up at 6.00am for the 2 hour journey tomorrow. Bet ITV won't stand it for long. How has this happened ? Teach me to order tickets in advance, well at least Kids are free at Donington.
I shall not be paying £50 for me and my 13y.o to get into Oulton for such a small grid.
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It's pretty sad as I had been expecting announcements this week that would bolster the grid. I think that something will have to be done as it is embarrassing to say that this is Britain's premier racing series (or whatever the marketing phrase is). I've no doubt that the racing will be close and exciting and Muller and Plato are bound to find each other, but one bad start from someone and a quarter of the field could be out!!!
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Idea!

How about if we all put some money together and buy one of last years cars, get a top drive and run a team for a year to help the grid?
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