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Old 13 Dec 2010, 12:27 (Ref:2803788)   #1
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360MRC 24hrs Race Proposition

360MRC have already been looking at a plan for resurrecting the Willhire (or something similar but for for 'period cars') There's no point in trying to compete with Britcar but we think there could be a place for something 'in between' that and the 24hour 2CV race. Since we're 'not for profit', we think that we can offer a very competitive package .... IF enough people will commit to it for 2012.
Preliminary investigations lead us to believe that, like the Willhire used to be, it's likely to be a slightly wider field than the 360 Six Hours (which will continue!) and is likely to include roadsports type cars as well as saloons and GT's.
We didn't want to reveal the plan at present but the possibility of another organiser wanting to do the same thing has forced our hand.
I guess it will all come down to cost and the confidence of potential competitors in the organisers to put on a good event.
Watch this space......as they say!
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Old 13 Dec 2010, 13:33 (Ref:2803826)   #2
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Give us a break John, some of us are still trying to get our heads round making a car last 6 hours

How about splitting the difference- 15 hours?
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Old 13 Dec 2010, 14:30 (Ref:2803855)   #3
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360MRC have already been looking at a plan for resurrecting the Willhire (or something similar but for for 'period cars') There's no point in trying to compete with Britcar but we think there could be a place for something 'in between' that and the 24hour 2CV race. Since we're 'not for profit', we think that we can offer a very competitive package .... IF enough people will commit to it for 2012.
Preliminary investigations lead us to believe that, like the Willhire used to be, it's likely to be a slightly wider field than the 360 Six Hours (which will continue!) and is likely to include roadsports type cars as well as saloons and GT's.
We didn't want to reveal the plan at present but the possibility of another organiser wanting to do the same thing has forced our hand.
I guess it will all come down to cost and the confidence of potential competitors in the organisers to put on a good event.
Watch this space......as they say!
woohoo yes please, I'm up for that
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Old 13 Dec 2010, 22:56 (Ref:2804089)   #4
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360MRC have already been looking at a plan for resurrecting the Willhire (or something similar but for for 'period cars') There's no point in trying to compete with Britcar but we think there could be a place for something 'in between' that and the 24hour 2CV race. Since we're 'not for profit', we think that we can offer a very competitive package .... IF enough people will commit to it for 2012.
Preliminary investigations lead us to believe that, like the Willhire used to be, it's likely to be a slightly wider field than the 360 Six Hours (which will continue!) and is likely to include roadsports type cars as well as saloons and GT's.
We didn't want to reveal the plan at present but the possibility of another organiser wanting to do the same thing has forced our hand.
I guess it will all come down to cost and the confidence of potential competitors in the organisers to put on a good event.
Watch this space......as they say!
Interesting.

How about allowing sports cars? Could be awesome!
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Old 13 Dec 2010, 23:39 (Ref:2804105)   #5
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Interesting.

How about allowing sports cars? Could be awesome!
Thanks for your interest and comment Roger. Given commercial viability, getting the eligibility and class structute right and thus the 'allowable' cars could be the biggest challenge. Get that wrong and there's always the danger of driving away more competitors than you attract and everybody will give advice (as I've said before on here) that just happens to favour the cars that they want/intend to race.
Sports cars are certainly on the agenda (as they were at the Willhire in period) but we have to be mindful of performance differentials both for safety and to make a good, competitive race. I'm sure we'll not be short of advice!
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Interesting.

How about allowing sports cars? Could be awesome!
covers a wide spectrum - are you thinking MGB or T70
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Sports racers.
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Anyway, whose up for this 24 hour based on the Wilhire regs?
So are you saying that will be prod saloons? Where am I going to be able to hire a Mk2 Capri (for example) to use as spares donor during the race

And will there be an all night beer tent?
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So are you saying that will be prod saloons? Where am I going to be able to hire a Mk2 Capri (for example) to use as spares donor during the race

And will there be an all night beer tent?

Mike...We will put the race on....YOU will provide the Beer tent!!! (Wine for me please)
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Old 16 Dec 2010, 19:43 (Ref:2805288)   #12
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So are you saying that will be prod saloons?
It would be good if JT would be kind enough to split off the appropriate posts on this thread (he has nothing better to do! ) under a seperate thread "The Willhire Revived?"

We need to debate Prod Saloons/Modified Saloons/Road Sports/GT cars/Sports Racers (just to please Simon ) for a 24 hour race. We need 40 ish cars to make it viable. ....... unless you're all bored with the idea already?
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Mike initially I thiought it would be but when I looked at the suggested list twin cam sports racers were conspicious by their absence...
I think this is for "posh" World Sports Cars....
Johngee to be honest if I was goingto do a 24 hour race I would do it in a modern car or possibly an old 911...
I think for the 24 Hour we would revisit the age groups. We could still very much have older cars and we have been looking at the idea of over a certain age being able to "tag" in some form of relay in respect of the 24 hours purely and simply some of those cars would not make 24 hours but why should they not be able to race?. Its quite a tricky one, but say you had several 1950's E types (just an example) what you could have is a team of them also compete in this 24 hour. a race within a race if you like ...but a thought....now before you all go off on one , I am only suggesting things...and making things work on paper (or in a thread) is easy compared to the real world.

In respect of this 24 hour, we would look at possibly coming in as far as the early to mid 90's, five bands of age and then split again (not saying at this point how) but what we would be keen to explore is the idea of keeping it as clubbie as possible but NOT putting so many limitations on it that people think "I wont bother" the most important thing is that the CUSTOMER has fun, enjoys the event and thinks "Christ I gotta do that again"...personally, I think we (360) can deliver that....in fact I know we can cause we already have and that was with the very limited grid that we first had.

JT You can split it or I will open a thread (might be better) and lets reallly wet some appetites
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Does the idea of a Wilhire type 24 hour race excite you?

Ok this is born out of the other thread (here) but we have been in discussions and there has been lots of talk ...but ...a 24 hour race, for historic PRODUCTION TYPE Cars yet to be determined...based on the old Wilhire in 2012.

We can do it...you know we can, but would YOU the customer enter?

We have been down this route before, you know we have and somehow 360 was born!, but, what about taking 360 to the next level and putting on a 24 hour race....what say you all

Your thoughts peeps?
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Old 17 Dec 2010, 09:31 (Ref:2805485)   #15
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I think you had a typo and meant 60's E Type!

Relay is neatly done by Birkett and I think it would be a mistake to try and mirror it. A good friend of mine won a 24 hour race at Dijon (I think) a few years ago in his Cobra so historics can last 24 hours.
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