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Old 8 Aug 2013, 05:49 (Ref:3287156)   #31
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Good move in my view. Puke is too dicey and the potential repair bill, if it rains again, could be very high and damaging to the series. Support acts look cool and I was not aware of the refuelling component. That will be interesting and one would think done by a churn....nascar style
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 06:54 (Ref:3287169)   #32
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 07:35 (Ref:3287181)   #33
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 08:17 (Ref:3287191)   #34
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Good move in my view. Puke is too dicey and the potential repair bill, if it rains again, could be very high and damaging to the series. Support acts look cool and I was not aware of the refuelling component. That will be interesting and one would think done by a churn....nascar style
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 08:32 (Ref:3287197)   #35
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a whole heap of flat-peakers with baggy pants ??

Your lack of knowledge about what is ACTUALLY happening at club level motorsport is quite breathtaking.

Perhaps you should get off your arses and actually attend a club event or read some of the media material out there on platforms like NZ Motor Racing and you might learn what's going on in motorsport at the moment in this country.

Far, far, too many people in influential positions in the sport in this country have absolutely no idea what's going on at club level. And within that I include MSNZ AND V8 SuperTourers.

This is a smart deal in my opinion. The HRC which will run these events organises more motor sport events in this country than all other event organisers combined (Do the maths, I did). They are behind the NZ Festival - which if you went to you would see dwarves ANY circuit event in NZ now outside of Supercars - and it's three of the four directors of that event, Chris Watson, Tony Roberts and Richard Gee - who are behind the NZRDL.

Rotary Race Enthusiasts - if you bother to research it before posting tripe - has been set up by (the aptly-named) Graeme Hill and is an open class for anything powered by rotaries. Good luck to him - Pro 7 is a shadow of its former self and there are plenty of guys out there with spectacular home built and engineered rotary powered racing machines who are keen to race. 2K Cup is a smart starter class that will bring more and more people into the sport. If you read the HRC newsletter you will see that they have already had two or three dedicated evenings when people can come and sit their race license test. Its all done properly and by experienced folk. MSNZ do NOTHING like this. Honda Cup has done two seasons now with v8ST and regularly turns out grids of 28 cars - which makes it BY FAR the biggest single grid now outside of the Beemers.

Again, if you bother to look, you might also learn that the NZRDL is working hard with MSNZ and the SI FFord guys to promote a North Island FFord championship with three NZRDL rounds and three National rounds to make up a NI championship for all vintages - contemporary and historic - and with exactly the same format happening on the SI, this is the best news FFord has had in ages in my opinion. Plus, it' finally on the V8ST card and one can only hope that owners of the cars get out and support it. This I the categories best chance of a decent revival and if you look at the models working elsewhere in the world - blending historic and modern is the way to go.

You might also learn with a bit of research that Superkarts are on board with the NZRDL. This is one of the most underrated classes in the country and having raced in it for a while, I am absolutely positive that if the NZRDL can provide a permanent home for Superkarts, it will thrive. And don't forget - these things lap HD quicker than the SuperTourers.

So how about some praise for some guys and class coordinators doing a really great job in creating something from scratch at club level? Good on them for securing the SuperTourers for their first event. Just chuck in the Utes and the Suzukis, and may be the occasional appearance by the Toyota 86s and CMCs.

NOBODY ELSE is doing anything like this on the North Island. Dave Dovey is slowly killing the IRC (even Julian hardy has now chucked in the towel) MSNZ are really only concerned with their contractual obligations to their paymasters Toyota and whilst Supercars IS a great meeting, it's a false economy because at least half of the cars running only appear at that event.

So well done Chris Watson. We'll be at Hampton Downs to see the SuperTourers, the refuelling AND the NZRDL.
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 10:44 (Ref:3287242)   #36
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Old 8 Aug 2013, 11:30 (Ref:3287261)   #37
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Thats a cool post club racer......nice
There's some really interesting information in that. Cheers

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Old 8 Aug 2013, 12:13 (Ref:3287274)   #38
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You might also learn with a bit of research that Superkarts are on board with the NZRDL. This is one of the most underrated classes in the country and having raced in it for a while, I am absolutely positive that if the NZRDL can provide a permanent home for Superkarts, it will thrive. And don't forget - these things lap HD quicker than the SuperTourers.
Great post, Club Racer!!

Just for the sake of complete accuracy, I should point out that the Superkarts, whilst very fast, are still slightly slower than V8ST.

Based on their results at HD in February, the fastest kart over the meeting (practice, qually and races) did a 1:04.8. I believe that was a twin-cylinder 250cc kart. A week earlier, the ST's ran at HD and their best time (in qualifying) was a 1:03.27. In fact, such is the closeness of the ST field that all 19 cars were covered by just 1.3 seconds. As far as I know, both meetings were run in the dry as there was virtually no rain at HD between January and mid-March.

PS: I spoke with one of the kart guys at that meeting and he showed me his data logger. He was running a single-cylinder 250cc kart and managed 1:08 laps without exceeding 185km/h! That's 50-60km/h slower than a Supertourer and gives an indication of just how much speed they're able to maintain around the corners.

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Old 8 Aug 2013, 21:47 (Ref:3287399)   #39
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a whole heap of flat-peakers with baggy pants ??
nah.. kids these days wear those skinny girl jeans from the past

hmm nzrdl.co.nz looks like a similar setup to irc.org.nz
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 10:00 (Ref:3287525)   #40
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 10:30 (Ref:3287533)   #41
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Couple more. We thought we'd give Eddie's car an evolution of design before Taupo, we are really happy with how it came up. A couple final touches, will look even better when it hits the track at Taupo.



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Old 9 Aug 2013, 10:52 (Ref:3287538)   #42
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Looks good Kieran You coming up for Taupo?
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 11:39 (Ref:3287556)   #43
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Old 9 Aug 2013, 22:40 (Ref:3287782)   #44
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Your lack of knowledge about what is ACTUALLY happening at club level motorsport is quite breathtaking.

Perhaps you should get off your arses and actually attend a club event or read some of the media material out there on platforms like NZ Motor Racing and you might learn what's going on in motorsport at the moment in this country.

Far, far, too many people in influential positions in the sport in this country have absolutely no idea what's going on at club level. And within that I include MSNZ AND V8 SuperTourers.

This is a smart deal in my opinion. The HRC which will run these events organises more motor sport events in this country than all other event organisers combined (Do the maths, I did). They are behind the NZ Festival - which if you went to you would see dwarves ANY circuit event in NZ now outside of Supercars - and it's three of the four directors of that event, Chris Watson, Tony Roberts and Richard Gee - who are behind the NZRDL.

Rotary Race Enthusiasts - if you bother to research it before posting tripe - has been set up by (the aptly-named) Graeme Hill and is an open class for anything powered by rotaries. Good luck to him - Pro 7 is a shadow of its former self and there are plenty of guys out there with spectacular home built and engineered rotary powered racing machines who are keen to race. 2K Cup is a smart starter class that will bring more and more people into the sport. If you read the HRC newsletter you will see that they have already had two or three dedicated evenings when people can come and sit their race license test. Its all done properly and by experienced folk. MSNZ do NOTHING like this. Honda Cup has done two seasons now with v8ST and regularly turns out grids of 28 cars - which makes it BY FAR the biggest single grid now outside of the Beemers.

Again, if you bother to look, you might also learn that the NZRDL is working hard with MSNZ and the SI FFord guys to promote a North Island FFord championship with three NZRDL rounds and three National rounds to make up a NI championship for all vintages - contemporary and historic - and with exactly the same format happening on the SI, this is the best news FFord has had in ages in my opinion. Plus, it' finally on the V8ST card and one can only hope that owners of the cars get out and support it. This I the categories best chance of a decent revival and if you look at the models working elsewhere in the world - blending historic and modern is the way to go.

You might also learn with a bit of research that Superkarts are on board with the NZRDL. This is one of the most underrated classes in the country and having raced in it for a while, I am absolutely positive that if the NZRDL can provide a permanent home for Superkarts, it will thrive. And don't forget - these things lap HD quicker than the SuperTourers.

So how about some praise for some guys and class coordinators doing a really great job in creating something from scratch at club level? Good on them for securing the SuperTourers for their first event. Just chuck in the Utes and the Suzukis, and may be the occasional appearance by the Toyota 86s and CMCs.

NOBODY ELSE is doing anything like this on the North Island. Dave Dovey is slowly killing the IRC (even Julian hardy has now chucked in the towel) MSNZ are really only concerned with their contractual obligations to their paymasters Toyota and whilst Supercars IS a great meeting, it's a false economy because at least half of the cars running only appear at that event.

So well done Chris Watson. We'll be at Hampton Downs to see the SuperTourers, the refuelling AND the NZRDL.

Hi Club Racer,

Firstly, congratulations on a very constructive post.

Secondly, have to say that I think that Chris Watson and Tony Roberts are doing a great job under very trying circumstances, least in my opinion, and deserve all our support.

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Old 10 Aug 2013, 09:27 (Ref:3287920)   #45
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Good post Club racer. Some valid points post of the month so far. Going by the quality of the posts lately it still will be at the end of the month!
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