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Old 15 Dec 2016, 03:08 (Ref:3696306)   #51
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The crazy thing about argentinian TC, is that those crappy cars are very expensive. You need 500.000 american dollars per year to race. That will give you an idea about what I said about corruption.
I guess it depends on the purse, if there is one.

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I've never been sure about this one. Very late 60s / early 70s. Not the most stylish, but certainly the wildest of days.

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Old 15 Dec 2016, 03:30 (Ref:3696309)   #52
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Old 15 Dec 2016, 06:42 (Ref:3696327)   #53
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I've never been sure about this one. Very late 60s / early 70s. Not the most stylish, but certainly the wildest of days.

Loving this thread, and some of the schemes! The purple and green 917 is one of my all time favourites.

The original 1971 Le Mans entry was nicknamed 'The Hippie Car', and painted at the circuit with spray cans! Originally intended to be white with red stripes (opposite to the other / winning 917), apparently Piech was not particularly impressed, but sponsors Martini were...
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I love the Rebellion liveries, lol. all of them, apart from when Lotus put JPS colours on it.
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but then post a picture of one of the most beautiful cars ever I'd like to add some nominations of my own, but I realize I am more appalled by body shape than by how they paint it. (in current GT) The Mustang, the camaro, the cadillac, the AMG GT, the BMW M6, the Bentley, yuck all these tanks. Grand Am DPs brrr. No amount of hippie car livery will make these beautiful in my eyes. On the other end of the spectrum, I'm yet to see a livery that'll make a 458/488 look ugly (try me, please).
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Old 15 Dec 2016, 12:06 (Ref:3696383)   #56
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but then post a picture of one of the most beautiful cars ever I'd like to add some nominations of my own, but I realize I am more appalled by body shape than by how they paint it. (in current GT) The Mustang, the camaro, the cadillac, the AMG GT, the BMW M6, the Bentley, yuck all these tanks. Grand Am DPs brrr. No amount of hippie car livery will make these beautiful in my eyes. On the other end of the spectrum, I'm yet to see a livery that'll make a 458/488 look ugly (try me, please).
Ha! The 917 is one of the most beautiful cars of all time and the long tails are the most beautiful versions of it. Take the livery on this a slap it on something else, I don't think it works.

Outside if the Argentine TCs, I am struggling to find something I hate. I have found many ugly shaped cars, however.

I always thought this never made sense. The Olive Garden Ferrari. Fake Italian restaurant, all Italian Ferrari painted green while the British Ferrari in the same races was red.



Not ugly. Just making no sense.

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Loving this thread, and some of the schemes! The purple and green 917 is one of my all time favourites.

The original 1971 Le Mans entry was nicknamed 'The Hippie Car', and painted at the circuit with spray cans! Originally intended to be white with red stripes (opposite to the other / winning 917), apparently Piech was not particularly impressed, but sponsors Martini were...
The Hippie car is certainly iconic and a great story. I'm sure people at the time found it too much and over the top,but its damn hard to make a 17 ugly.
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Old 15 Dec 2016, 13:49 (Ref:3696410)   #57
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The crazy thing about argentinian TC, is that those crappy cars are very expensive. You need 500.000 american dollars per year to race. That will give you an idea about what I said about corruption.
$500,000/yr to run a car in a professional series is stupid cheap in modern day motorsport.
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God, I hate with all my soul the argentinian TC. It's a core of corruption, manipulation, and applauded bad behaviour, running in very old designs tyres.
What's wrong with crap tires? Makes the drivers have to actually drive the car.


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$500,000/yr to run a car in a professional series is stupid cheap in modern day motorsport.


What's wrong with crap tires? Makes the drivers have to actually drive the car.

That's what a driver must contribute to the team, it could be cheap in US, not in Argentina.


About the tyres, the problem is not that the tyres wear fast, it a construction issue. The tyres are bias ply not radial. There is no sense to make your early years in racing on bias ply tyres if you are going to use radial at any category around the world.
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That's what a driver must contribute to the team, it could be cheap in US, not in Argentina.


About the tyres, the problem is not that the tyres wear fast, it a construction issue. The tyres are bias ply not radial. There is no sense to make your early years in racing on bias ply tyres if you are going to use radial at any category around the world.
Bias-ply tires teach you about car control.

...and half a million dollars is cheap in ANY form of professional racing around the world for a full season.
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In 1999 I watched this car and livery do 242 laps at the Daytona 24 hr
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I thought the Champion Audi R8 was a horrendous livery actually. Though you got used to it.
Their R8 looked amazing compared to some of their earlier cars. The Lola particularly grated me the wrong way- like someone started out to Jackson Pollock the thing but got bored after 2 minutes.
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'Was not. He was born in Fife.

Dull green with silly yellow elongated drip was the ugly livery....

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'Was not. He was born in Fife.
Okay okay. I said "arguably".

Besides, everyone knows the greatest racing driver ever was born in Houston Texas.
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Dull green with silly yellow elongated drip was the ugly livery....
Similar situation here. More "me too" livery. Bland basic color, nothing that draws your eyes to the car, numbers too big (as if ease of reading was important?). I suspect nobody paid much attention to this car then or even today. It has probably long been converted to scrap metal.



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I like that. I tend to like the old Art cars. The newer ones less so. The latest BMW is just ridiculous.
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Okay okay. I said "arguably".

Besides, everyone knows the greatest racing driver ever was born in Houston Texas.
Bah. If we're goin' 'Murican, I say Mario!.

Sorry 'bout gettin' off topic. I digress.
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I'm nearly hypnotized after looking at that.
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I actually liked this car, but it fits the thread theme:

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