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Old 26 Sep 2017, 19:12 (Ref:3770001)   #626
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It looks as though a considerable amount comes from Kuwait, as well as Italy and/or Switzerland. During 2016, the holding company raised £200 million in a flotation of preference shares, and for the year ending December 2016, the holding company recorded a loss of £162 million. The preceding year the loss was just under £73 million.
I'm not on expert on company finances so I find this very difficult to understand. In layman's terms how does a company with such a poor financial track history become a major sponsor in F1?
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 19:49 (Ref:3770005)   #627
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I'm not on expert on company finances so I find this very difficult to understand. In layman's terms how does a company with such a poor financial track history become a major sponsor in F1?
sounds like a perfect fit for F1!!
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Old 26 Sep 2017, 19:53 (Ref:3770006)   #628
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sounds like a perfect fit for F1!!
Sad but true I fear
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I'm not on expert on company finances so I find this very difficult to understand. In layman's terms how does a company with such a poor financial track history become a major sponsor in F1?
One way to keep long suffering investors sweet may be to give them multiple jollies across the world watching the brand they underwrite run around the racetrack..
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Massa: "I'm sure I have most of the team on my side, especially the engineers and people who know about motor-racing, but at the end of the day you have some other things around that it's maybe not the talent that decides."

God I hope he's not on the F1 grid next year!
Never could like the bloke. Just another whinger who managed to somehow stay in the game longer than he should have.

https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/15983
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The same whinger that took the most heart-wrenching WDC loss with the utmost grace?
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Massa: "I'm sure I have most of the team on my side, especially the engineers and people who know about motor-racing, but at the end of the day you have some other things around that it's maybe not the talent that decides."
This bit...

"but at the end of the day you have some other things around that it's maybe not the talent that decides."

...is it not true and also something we complain and talk about here quite frequently?

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None of the Williams choices seem particularly sparkling..
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None of the Williams choices seem particularly sparkling..
Jolyon Palmer?
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Old 29 Sep 2017, 09:52 (Ref:3770503)   #635
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Williams don't seem to have any better options atm than Massa, di Resta and Kubica
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Williams don't seem to have any better options atm than Massa, di Resta and Kubica
*cough* Maldonado *cough*
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*cough* Maldonado *cough*


Is he still tyre testing?
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Is he still tyre testing?
Yup, still making sure that all the tyre barriers around the world are safe!
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None of the Williams choices seem particularly sparkling..
Kubica would make for great press.
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Kubica would make for great press.
Yes and i think that's what Williams are trying to milk...

Maybe they will rotate the drivers of that car next year with Bob Kub doing the circuits that are the least arduous....
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Kubica would make for great press.
It is a great story, absolutely

But is MrvKubica going to be able yo drag the team up by the boot straps and win them races?

None of the options mentioned seem to have that on their horizon
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It is a great story, absolutely

But is MrvKubica going to be able yo drag the team up by the boot straps and win them races?

None of the options mentioned seem to have that on their horizon
Mr Kubica at his best was not that flash.

Massa is the only serious choice if Williams are trying to build success.
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Mr Kubica at his best was not that flash.

Massa is the only serious choice if Williams are trying to build success.
Massa is not that quick now, inconsistent and years past his best.
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Kubica a must. Whether they win or lose with him doesn't matter. It's all about money and sponsors. With him in the car the cameras will never be off him, which is sponsor names on TV screens, which adds to value of advertising space on the cars and loads of money rolling in...So what if they finish 10th in every GP?
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None of the Williams choices seem particularly sparkling..
Stroll gold ??
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Hartley? Didn't he write a fishing book?
Kubica a must. Whether they win or lose with him doesn't matter. It's all about money and sponsors. With him in the car the cameras will never be off him, which is sponsor names on TV screens, which adds to value of advertising space on the cars and loads of money rolling in...So what if they finish 10th in every GP?
Back in the old days, winning was ALL that mattered at Williams
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Back in the old days, winning was ALL that mattered at Williams
Sad to say that died a decade or so ago.
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With days like today you have to wonder if there could be a change at Haas, to try to get a driver more sensitive to car behaviour in.
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Could Mr Bottas find his way back to Williams in 2018?
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