V8's on bigpond

Peter Ford · 2 Sep 2006, 01:42 (Ref:1699680)

Now that channel 7 get the rights to the V8's,will we still have them on the bigpond broadband and will we still bet the panelbeaters as well?.

1200Datto27 · 2 Sep 2006, 01:50 (Ref:1699682)

As far as I am aware, the Bigpond contract (up for renewal this year I think) is totally seperate from the Channel 7 TV contract.

Chatters · 2 Sep 2006, 01:51 (Ref:1699684)

I imagine so, the V8's are sponsored by BigPond, not Channel 10. Maybe the V8's will begin an alliance with Yahoo!, because 7 is linked with them too.

mabs_nsx · 2 Sep 2006, 01:53 (Ref:1699687)

I don't know. Qualifying coverage is great but the race with in car cameras only is stupid and a waste of time.

I have to go to work at 1:45pm so I will have to tape most of the race and watch all or most of it later on Sunday night or Monday afternoon at 4:30pm or 5:00pm after TAFE. Dose Bigpond still have in car cameras only for races? If they don't I will watch most all or most of the race live on Bigpond.

retro · 2 Sep 2006, 02:35 (Ref:1699711)

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Originally Posted by 1200Datto27

As far as I am aware, the Bigpond contract (up for renewal this year I think) is totally seperate from the Channel 7 TV contract.

Being negotiated right now...

volvolean · 2 Sep 2006, 02:37 (Ref:1699712)

if bigpond write a cheque for 10 million dollars they will be allowed to sponsor v8supercar

Chatters · 2 Sep 2006, 05:38 (Ref:1699819)

They are already sponsoring the V8 Supercars.

volvolean · 2 Sep 2006, 05:41 (Ref:1699822)

not after this year they wont be

Razor · 2 Sep 2006, 06:30 (Ref:1699856)

Speaking of Bigponds V8 broadcast, did anyone see the Access all areas of DJR's workshop? If anyone did, do you know the name where it is like a cockpit simulator but with weights to train the neck, leg and arm muscels? It was originaly designed by Ferrari F1 for Schuey.

DAVID PATERSON · 12 Sep 2006, 02:42 (Ref:1708462)

I really enjoy watchng the quaifying and the shoot-out on Big Pond, but i never watch the race on big Pond, that's what TV is for.

davester · 12 Sep 2006, 05:02 (Ref:1708494)

IIRC, the Channel 7 agreement requires V8SA to capture and produce footage, which 7 will then air (production costs picked up by V8SA).

So if V8SA are the producer of the footage, then assigning footage to Bigpond 9or other net rights holder) shouldn't be an issue.

I'm sure that for the internet rights $$$ amount V8SA are seeking, footage would have to be included.

billybanana · 12 Sep 2006, 05:33 (Ref:1708505)

TC on last weeks' Panelbeaters review show categorically stated that V8's will be on BP next year. He said they have an agreement in place and announcement to be made shortly.

Chatters · 12 Sep 2006, 12:56 (Ref:1708791)

So if Crompton goes to 7 and Rusty stays with 10, will we see Rusty? Is his deal with BigPond in conjunction with Channel 10? Or is it separate?

deeks6 · 12 Sep 2006, 13:18 (Ref:1708812)

Lets just HOPE AND PRAY that Bigpond get NOTHING ...

How ridiculous to shut out every other internet provider but one ... get some sense VESA, even if it is a user-subscribe system.

I thought also that 7 digital would show the events as the "Bigpond" substitute ... in fact, there was talk that they would go up against 10's football coverage with the digital channel.

peckstar · 13 Sep 2006, 08:10 (Ref:1709387)

how much you p[repared to pay deeks

deeks6 · 13 Sep 2006, 08:30 (Ref:1709406)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

how much you p[repared to pay deeks

Less than the $90/month that Bigpond want me to pay for their "unlimited" broadband when Optus gives me more (36GB) for $50 per month (and I have not had a problem in 10 years unlike my poor father who has at least 1 problem every month with his BigPoo).

I'm happy to pay a subscription to VESA (say, $100 per annum?) ... but lets see what 7 has to offer first.

BTW, still confident about Bathurst Peck?

peckstar · 13 Sep 2006, 09:01 (Ref:1709430)

ok it was the 100 per month i was interested in because obviously if it goes to all prviders there will be afee

yes still confident, no reason not to be

only team to have a really flexible strategy. although i wouldnt mind the kid being crownded the new king

DAVID PATERSON · 14 Sep 2006, 02:49 (Ref:1709898)

Deeks, I'm only paying $37/month for unlimted Broadband on Big Pond and the V8s are the only reason I changed over from another ISP.

peckstar · 14 Sep 2006, 07:26 (Ref:1709967)

would you be getting the half price for 12 mths deal David ?

Chatters · 14 Sep 2006, 08:05 (Ref:1709993)

I'd be willing to pay for a V8 Supercar online thing like BigPond, hell I'd subscribe to BigPond if they had an unlimited broadband deal. Which they unfortunately don't.

deeks6 · 14 Sep 2006, 08:48 (Ref:1710021)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Deeks, I'm only paying $37/month for unlimted Broadband on Big Pond and the V8s are the only reason I changed over from another ISP.

David, thats a limited deal. Their (outrageous) prices are still $100/mth for 20GB only at 256k ... that is CR@P. I get 36GB for half the price at twice the speed (512k). I ain't changing for that sort of deal. and I can go to dads for the races, if I want to watch the incar (which I do, better than watching pitstops, ads, limping cars and helmets on 10)

VESA need to rethink this ... I am not alone, I'm sure.

Here's a comparison - when the racing industry had their argument with Sky and TVN, Foxtel was offering subscribers to get TVN for just $12 per annum. They got something like 200,000 subscribers - thats a cool $2.4 MILL jumping in coz punters want to see their money getting beat.

By my (conservative) estimates there are at least 250,000 hard core V8SC / motor racing fans in Australia and lets say another 2-300,000 "casual" somewhat interested observers. Lets also say that 50% of those have internet connections.

Now, lets price it to attract maximum take-up ... say $50 per annum and say that half the V8SC hard-cores take it up and 10% of the non-hard-cores take it up (of those that have internet. Lets add another 5% who might have access on their phone and take it up.

The numbers:

250,000 x 50% x 50% = 62,500
250,000 x 50% x 10% = 12,500
500,000 x 50% x 5% = 12,500

Total 87,500 x $50 = $4, 375, 000

HOW MUCH is BIGPOND worth to V8SC ??? Not anywhere remotely near $4.4 MILL I'd suspect ...

Now, I reckon I'm being conservative but lets say I'm overestimating it by DOUBLE - thats still $2.2 million bucks - still more than Bigpond is worth to VESA.

AND ... I havent even considered the overseas market - I suspect that there arfe at least several thousand potential subscribers who would take it up (and expats). I, for instance (and again I don't think I'm alone here) would pay to subscribe to Speed Channel if I could get it - I cannot - and I would pay a decent fee to get it.

There is a big picture here and there are plenty of high ranking folks who are simply NOT seeing it. How about doing a deal with Speed Channel, have an agreement with NASCAR ... anything but the pathetic way they are doing it now.

Bigpond is an out-and-out SWINDLE both in terms of what its worth and its services. DROP THEM. Tender the services supplied and get rid of the exclusivity of use - it is denying many potential markets.

bestfit · 14 Sep 2006, 09:33 (Ref:1710044)

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David, thats a limited deal. Their (outrageous) prices are still $100/mth for 20GB only at 256k ... that is CR@P.

You're right, that is CR@P. I suggest you visit the Bigpond site again because the price you are quoting is rubbish.

I pay $90 a month ($99.95 - 10% discount) for 1500kbps *unlimited downloads.
*they say that the sevice may be throttled back to 56kbps if you exceed 10Gb downloads but I can't remember the last time I didn't exceed 10Gb. I have never had the service slowed down, even after 25Gb+ downloads.

deeks6 · 14 Sep 2006, 09:44 (Ref:1710052)

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Originally Posted by bestfit

You're right, that is CR@P. I suggest you visit the Bigpond site again because the price you are quoting is rubbish.

I pay $90 a month ($99.95 - 10% discount) for 1500kbps *unlimited downloads.
*they say that the sevice may be throttled back to 56kbps if you exceed 10Gb downloads but I can't remember the last time I didn't exceed 10Gb. I have never had the service slowed down, even after 25Gb+ downloads.

Well, they must be hiding it well ... coz this is what they are telling us -

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/128kbps $29.95 $39.95 $59.95 - -
Up to 8Mbps
/256kbps - - - $89.95 -
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/256kbps $39.95 $49.95 $69.95 $99.95 $149.95

I was wrong - I Over-quoted by 5c - its "only" $99.95 ... sheesh

HOWEVER ... this is not the main point - EXCLUSIVITY Deals are great for the exclusive provider NOT for the person selling the rights...for all the reasons outlined above.

bestfit · 14 Sep 2006, 10:34 (Ref:1710081)

My bad. I assumed you were talking ADSL not cable.

However the plan you quote is NOT ONLY 256kbps it is 8Mbps which is super, super, super fast!!! The /256kbps is the upload speed not the download speed.

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