Patrizi Delusional?? - Page 3

DJJ · 13 Dec 2008, 07:14 (Ref:2354041)

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Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

It was the ex TKR machine, correct?

motofan · 13 Dec 2008, 07:32 (Ref:2354044)

not sure if it was ex tkr but it was an old chasis and word down pit lane at bathurst was that they where running less hp then other teams to preserve the engine as they did not bring a spare where as many teams had brand new engines for bathurst as is common practice, but like many of you have said motorsport comes down to budget not just to get the drive but also to perform if patrizi does no good next year then sure ill admit im wrong but to attack a driver in his first year of tin tops or touring cars where he is competing with people with development series and main game experience is unfair and to say wellhe should go into the development series to get experience? the development series is the closest thing to a "money pit" the world has ever seen that series needs alot of work i apologise for the miss spealt words and what not

porsche91722 · 13 Dec 2008, 07:35 (Ref:2354046)

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Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

My read on this, is that if you are a player in the main game then you have to be competitive and be a reasonable contender at each and every round. If you ain't, then you are gonna cop it, from the media and all of us wannabees. And you are damn right, we ARE wannabees, only difference is, we don't have big enough chequebooks, and in my case, any talent.
Then of course, if what the Kalgoolie rag has printed is true, he had better pull his head in and wait till he gets some better results before he makes any more "comment". Lets see how he goes next year.

Mr Intolerant · 13 Dec 2008, 07:45 (Ref:2354048)

Crash Davis: Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.

Bull Durham 1988

shadow_man · 13 Dec 2008, 08:29 (Ref:2354057)

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Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

Where are you getting your info? the car was the same as the leading FPR cars, in fact quicker on one test day (but then that was in the hands of a real race car driver...).

What are these reason for leaving the sport?? Jim did an outstanding job for about 40 years in motor racing, pointing the finger at him for a drivers short comings after introducing so many other great races to top line motorsport is way over the mark.

The respect in the pitlane is for the greens in his daddy's pocket, not the skill behind the wheel. I can assure you that Dick isn't one of the guys at DJR that has anytime for someone of the skill and character of Michael Patrizi.

Seems that we here are not the only wanna be know it all's.....

Just Do It! · 13 Dec 2008, 10:22 (Ref:2354109)

Michael seems like a nice bloke. With a seven-digit sum for race budget for 2009, expect to see him in a car further developing his V8 Supercar driving experience.

It may not be entirely Dad's money that got him there either, but then some assume the prominent brand on the car is his Dad's.....

bazil · 13 Dec 2008, 23:48 (Ref:2354451)

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Originally Posted by shadow_man

Where are you getting your info? the car was the same as the leading FPR cars, in fact quicker on one test day (but then that was in the hands of a real race car driver...).

Benalla with a Frost...? Several seconds faster than the cars regular driver, or so the story goes.

dazza027 · 14 Dec 2008, 00:13 (Ref:2354459)

Wow, that would mean that hes about as fast as ANY of us mugs...

DAVID PATERSON · 15 Dec 2008, 03:08 (Ref:2354963)

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Originally Posted by dazza027

Wow, that would mean that hes about as fast as ANY of us mugs...

If he can get within a couple of seconds of Frosty, that would make him a lot quicker than 95% of the people on this forum.

STEALTHY · 15 Dec 2008, 04:23 (Ref:2354978)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

If he can get within a couple of seconds of Frosty, that would make him a lot quicker than 95% of the people on this forum.

Wouldn't that place him 4th in the championship then? Or did you mean on one occasion?

mac · 15 Dec 2008, 04:48 (Ref:2354985)

I think Patrizi has improved quite a bit over the season. Race 2 at Oran Park was actually quite encouraging, leading home Marshall, Thompson and Gaunt relatively comfortably - and clinging to the back of the Sprint Gas cars and BJR cars for a while. Pace wise, that is a reasonable improvement - I remember thinking he was doing a pretty good job.

Unfortunately he still makes too many mistakes - if he gets another go next year, he really needs to cut back on them in a big way.

Kingair · 15 Dec 2008, 05:26 (Ref:2354992)

Just think he can tell the grandkids how he beat Mark skaife home in Race1 and 2 at Oran Park, the last time the V8's ran there!

RotorFan · 15 Dec 2008, 21:57 (Ref:2355534)

I'm still confused. I thought this car was the CAMS Rising Star car, and therefore should have a some young, fast, future super star driving?

By all counts, it sounds like he is just a Son of Rich Father that makes lots of mistakes and talks himself up?

sizzle · 16 Dec 2008, 02:46 (Ref:2355685)

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Originally Posted by RotorFan

I'm still confused. I thought this car was the CAMS Rising Star car, and therefore should have a some young, fast, future super star driving?

By all counts, it sounds like he is just a Son of Rich Father that makes lots of mistakes and talks himself up?

Ford

RotorFan · 16 Dec 2008, 02:57 (Ref:2355689)

Oooh, my mistake, sorry!

alfacors · 16 Dec 2008, 03:03 (Ref:2355691)

CAMS Rising Stars are still in Fords thpugh .... Formula Fords

sizzle · 16 Dec 2008, 03:24 (Ref:2355696)

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Originally Posted by alfacors

CAMS Rising Stars are still in Fords thpugh .... Formula Fords

The second bit was also right, Sons of rich fathers.

Stocky · 22 Dec 2008, 02:38 (Ref:2359496)

Personally, I saw plenty of him in karts.

Didn't see anything impressive then (despite the best gear) so it looks like nothing has changed really.

He's always been keen to tell you how good he is. That's not changed either LOL

Who really cares ?

If he's got the cash then he can go V8 racing and it's a free country.

If he thinks he's good then that's great for him.

Any PR you read is always going to have a positive spin. He's hardly going to bag himself.

GtiMagic · 22 Dec 2008, 04:46 (Ref:2359521)

Interesting to see this thread re-ignited!

I was a guest of a sponsor of the team at a round earlier in the year, and to my surprise Mr. Patrizi seemed keen to pass the responsibility of his poor performances to his team/car rather than putting his hand up and announce himself as the no talent rookie he was/is!

I feel for PCR and Coulthard who will have to put up with his ranting next year. One hopes that when he announces his connection with Mario Theissen (sp?) or the Prince of Bahrhain the team principles will promptly tell him, "we dont care!"

FalconXRated · 22 Dec 2008, 06:19 (Ref:2359531)

I would like to see him in a 2 car team with a team mate that can set up the car, in a one car team, even with a good car, its been hard to judge.

We know what PCR have been able to achieve with Fabian so this next year will be interesting.

Wasn't this also Dumbrells make our break year in good equipment?
A year to forget but RK did't exactly have a blinder either.

**GTRMagic** · 22 Dec 2008, 08:37 (Ref:2359570)

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Originally Posted by FalconXRated

I would like to see him in a 2 car team with a team mate that can set up the car, in a one car team, even with a good car, its been hard to judge.

Except Mr Patrizi was part of a 3 car team, and the other 2 cars seemed to win rounds of the series in 2008....

Holly Wood · 22 Dec 2008, 08:59 (Ref:2359581)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Except Mr Patrizi was part of a 3 car team, and the other 2 cars seemed to win rounds of the series in 2008....

But was there any data sharing going on at the track?

Was Patrizi allowed to take part in the FPR debriefs after each session?

Was Patrizi's garage even anywhere near the FPR one?

Hardly a 3 car team in my view...

sizzle · 22 Dec 2008, 13:35 (Ref:2359710)

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Originally Posted by GtiMagic

I was a guest of a sponsor of the team at a round earlier in the year

How is your forehead?

Racenut7 · 22 Dec 2008, 21:17 (Ref:2359880)

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Originally Posted by Holly Wood

But was there any data sharing going on at the track?

Was Patrizi allowed to take part in the FPR debriefs after each session?

Was Patrizi's garage even anywhere near the FPR one?

Hardly a 3 car team in my view...

It was 1 car team.
Michael said it a FPR prepared car under FRSR.

FalconXRated · 22 Dec 2008, 22:22 (Ref:2359901)

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Originally Posted by Holly Wood

But was there any data sharing going on at the track?

Was Patrizi allowed to take part in the FPR debriefs after each session?

Was Patrizi's garage even anywhere near the FPR one?

Hardly a 3 car team in my view...

Exactly, its like saying BJR were part of a 6 or 8 car team because of their car being prepared by WPG.
The FPR cars were good last year but without a senior driver to asist on race day as I said its hard to judge.

You can't beat experince in setting up cars, look where Rusty got the Supercheap car this year.

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