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22 Feb 2006, 12:52 (Ref:1529031)
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I think its a shame there are going to be cars at LM who are not doing a season in a championship yet im sure 1 or 2 teams will miss out who have committed to a series..
I know Audi wont miss out but if they stated you had to be entered into a series to request an entry into LM. Why should they be given an entry if there not going to enter a series and someone like chamberlin who have commited to a Season + in the sport miss out... Teams used above are examples.. |
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22 Feb 2006, 12:55 (Ref:1529033)
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Despite all of these comments, will anybody really be bothered about which teams are in / out when we all get to the circuit? I always appreciate what is there, as opposed to rue what ain't, when I'm at Le Mans...even in 92.
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22 Feb 2006, 12:56 (Ref:1529034)
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It is a difficult situation. On one hand you want to guarantee quality, but on the other hand you need all the information to do this. So they have played safe. I guess leaving it as late as the first LMS race causes problems for the teams. They need to know if they are in the big one to start preparing and get sponsors on board.
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22 Feb 2006, 13:39 (Ref:1529065)
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22 Feb 2006, 16:18 (Ref:1529146)
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I think the quality of the grid matters greatly. Especially when you consider how limited the grid size is. If they could let in more cars then the net could be cast out a bit further. As it stands now, each year a few quality entries are snubbed by the ACO's selection process.
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22 Feb 2006, 16:21 (Ref:1529150)
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Posted this in the Le Mans 2006 thread, but this is where I think the list will go:
PROTOTYPE "LM" P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST GER LM P1 AUDI 5497T AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST GER LM P1 AUDI 5497T GROUPBIO GBR LM P1 LOLA 4998T COURAGE COMPETITION FRA LM P1 COURAGE MUGEN 4000A COURAGE COMPETITION FRA LM P1 COURAGE MUGEN 4000A PESCAROLO SPORT FRA LM P1 PESCAROLO JUDD 4997A PESCAROLO SPORT FRA LM P1 PESCAROLO JUDD 4997A RACING FOR HOLLAND NLD LM P1 DOME MUGEN 4000A ZYTEK ENGINEERING GBR LM P1 ZYTEK 3997A ZYTEK ENGINEERING GBR LM P1 ZYTEK 3997A CREATION AUTOSPORTIF LTD GBR LM P1 CREATION JUDD 4997A LISTER STORM RACING GBR LM P1 LISTER STORM 5993A CHAMBERLAIN - SYNERGY MOTORSPORT GBR LM P1 LOLA AER 3600T PROTOTYPE "LM" P2 BINNIE MOTORSPORTS USA LM P2 LOLA ZYTEK 3397A MIRACLE MOTORSPORTS USA LM P2 COURAGE - AER 1995T CHAMBERLAIN - SYNERGY MOTORSPORT GBR LM P2 LOLA AER 1995T INTERSPORT RACING USA LM P2 LOLA AER 1995T RML GBR LM P2 LOLA AER 1995T PAUL BELMONDO RACING FRA LM P2 COURAGE FORD 1995T PAUL BELMONDO RACING FRA LM P2 COURAGE FORD 1995T G-FORCE RACING BEL LM P2 COURAGE JUDD 3397A BARAZI EPSILON FRA LM P2 COURAGE AER 1995T BRUNEAU PIERRE FRA LM P2 PILBEAM JUDD 3397A WELTER GERARD FRA LM P2 WR-PEUGEOT 1999T TEAM JOTA GBR LM P2 ZYTEK 3996A GRAND TOURISME ("LM" GT1) ORECA FRA LM GT1 SALEEN S7R 6999A ORECA FRA LM GT1 SALEEN S7R 6999A LUC ALPHAND AVENTURES FRA LM GT1 CORVETTE C5-R 6997A CORVETTE RACING USA LM GT1 CORVETTE C6-R 6993A CORVETTE RACING USA LM GT1 CORVETTE C6-R 6993A CONVERS MENX TEAM RUS LM GT1 FERRARI 550 MARANELLO 5983A ASTON MARTIN RACING GBR LM GT1 ASTON MARTIN DBR9 5993A ASTON MARTIN RACING GBR LM GT1 ASTON MARTIN DBR9 5993A ACEMCO MOTORSPORTS USA LM GT1 SALEEN S7R 6999A BMS SCUDERIA ITALIA ITA LM GT1 ASTON MARTIN DBR9 5993A RUSSIAN AGE RACING RUS LM GT1 FERRARI 550 MARANELLO 5853A RUSSIAN AGE RACING RUS LM GT1 ASTON MARTIN DBR9 5993A JLOC ISAO NORITAKE JPN LM GT1 LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO 5990A LARBRE COMPETITION TEAM FRA LM GT1 FERRARI 550 5853A GRAND TOURISME ("LM" GT2) SCUDERIA ECOSSE GBR LM GT2 FERRARI 430 GT 3998A SEBAH AUTOMOTIVE LTD GBR LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RSR 3598A WHITE LIGHTNING RACING USA LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RSR 3598A MULTIMATIC MOTORSPORT CND LM GT2 PANOZ ESPERANTE 4990A TEAM TAISAN ADVAN JPN LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3-RS 3598A GORDON RACING TEAM BEL LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3-RS 3795A SPYKER SQUADRON b.v. NLD LM GT2 SPYKER C8 SPYDER 3782A SPYKER SQUADRON b.v. NLD LM GT2 SPYKER C8 SPYDER 3782A FLYING LIZARD USA LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RSR 3598A TEAM LNT GBR LM GT2 PANOZ ESPERANTE 4998A IMSA MATMUT FRA LM GT2 PORSCHE 911 GT3 RSR 3795A "LM" P1 13 "LM" P2 12 "LM" GT1 14 "LM" GT2 11 |
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22 Feb 2006, 16:28 (Ref:1529152)
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Did anybody else enter a 430?
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22 Feb 2006, 16:40 (Ref:1529158)
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I know that Maycom and Virgo Motorsport submitted entries, but I don't see them getting slots in 2006. Outside chance of a reserves list spot for either, but without much recent experience at LM or an ACO-based series their best bet would be 2007. Does anyone know if GPC submitted an entry? If they did, I could see them getting at least a reserve spot.
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22 Feb 2006, 16:43 (Ref:1529161)
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By the way, the list looks pretty good in comparison to last year's... although I don't know about those double Spykers. However, they raced at a lot of events in the past year and have steadily improved since Sebring of last year.
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22 Feb 2006, 16:54 (Ref:1529167)
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22 Feb 2006, 16:57 (Ref:1529169)
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No room for Rollcentres Radical !!!
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22 Feb 2006, 17:04 (Ref:1529175)
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22 Feb 2006, 17:04 (Ref:1529174)
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22 Feb 2006, 17:05 (Ref:1529177)
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22 Feb 2006, 17:06 (Ref:1529178)
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Notice that Chamberlain has two entries, but IIRC they no longer own the B05/40, having upgraded to the B06/10.
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22 Feb 2006, 17:14 (Ref:1529180)
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I'm pretty sure that Chamberlain will "transfer" their entry in LMP2 to Team ASM Portugal who will run the ex-Chamberlain B05/40 and their real entry will be in LMP1 with the B06/10... thats the only way their LMP2 entry makes sense.
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22 Feb 2006, 17:16 (Ref:1529181)
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Maybe thats what Chamberlain did . How much would a Lola B05/40 cost with a guaranteed entry ?
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22 Feb 2006, 17:30 (Ref:1529191)
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22 Feb 2006, 17:40 (Ref:1529194)
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How many reserves and who is likely?
If your first reserve it's almost certain you will get a call up, but I must confess most of the teams featured on the list are good and hopefully well financed so it may not go quite as far as the last few years. |
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22 Feb 2006, 17:44 (Ref:1529199)
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22 Feb 2006, 17:48 (Ref:1529202)
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LMP2 - 2nd WR & Rollcentre?
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22 Feb 2006, 17:52 (Ref:1529209)
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22 Feb 2006, 18:09 (Ref:1529221)
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