series for under £10k... - Page 2

kickstart · 25 Feb 2004, 09:19 (Ref:884965)

Tring not to be cynical it is all about money. You could use FVee as a springboard to whatever you liked provided you find the money. Having once worked for a company that sponsored a driver about 20 years ago, I really do not think it matters to the sponsor what previous experience the driver has had unless you are looking for a big budget for F3, BTCC etc. But if a sponsor is looking for a proven race winner at this level then there will always be several options not including contacting the top teams themselves.
Raising serious money for motorsport at a level below F1 or BTCC is in my view almost impossible unless you have a personal connection with an individual or company. That is why so much sponsorship is tied to a particular driver eg the Verstappen saga at Jordan.
Acf8181 - enjoy you motor racing but if you want to get somewhere you really have to be in it to win it.
Good luck

Bob Pearson · 25 Feb 2004, 09:52 (Ref:884994)

But the fallacy of this whole conversation is surely that Dan Eagling and the guy who went from Vee to Renault still had to stump up the required budget to make the move. If that is the case any of us could make the move to a higher formula if we have the budget. It could be argued that their wins helped them get the budgets, but as we have all said in the past most budgets come from family related companies and so achievements have little or nothing to do with it.
Anyway, unless 750 MC has changed since my days in it, the only people who would notice someone winning in Vee is the guy who came second and the six spectators.

woodyracing · 25 Feb 2004, 10:05 (Ref:885005)

There was a guy in FVee who moved to FRenault, but he only did FVee to get enough signatures to do FRenault.

bbr73 · 25 Feb 2004, 11:07 (Ref:885078)

If you have 10K available why don't think about getting a loan for £17-£18K, but a Caterham Roadsport or similar and trailor. Running costs for a year in the 750mc 7's champ would be approx. £5,000, repayments for the loan would be £2000 to £3000, leaving £2000 for emergencies or insurance. At the end of the year, sell both the car and trailor and the depreciation will hardly be anything, probably about £1000. You can also look to hire the car out to try and get some cash back.

simon drabble · 25 Feb 2004, 15:08 (Ref:885241)

what about 2cv racing I would have thought you could be a front runner in that for that budget

Instructor · 25 Feb 2004, 16:06 (Ref:885296)

If you want to race a TVR
I run the TVRCC Challenge Cup which this year opens up to ANY TVR and there are a few hire cars out there going at good prices.

Best regs
Steve L
steve@b-chip.com

zefarelly · 26 Feb 2004, 09:27 (Ref:885989)

I've just sold a caged and harnessed TVR Vixen for 6k another grand and it would have been race ready, . . .so that sounds feasible . . .road legal too so you could arguably drive it to and from

although from my experiance you'd be deaf by the end of the year !

***Chris Y*** · 26 Feb 2004, 09:49 (Ref:886005)

Did you sell that Cortina GT in the end, Zef?

StephenRae · 26 Feb 2004, 10:30 (Ref:886051)

Acf..... I'm guessing that you haven't won all the races you have entered or you would have mentioned. Sadly there have been many over the years who have done more or less that and still got nowhere.
Selecting the right series to race in is not nearly as important as winning when it comes to furthering your career. So no matter how lowly you may persieve a championship to be, if that's the one you can afford that's the one you are going to have to do....and your going to have to win it.

Tony Crossley · 26 Feb 2004, 13:27 (Ref:886255)

Try racing an MGB. 2 BTCC drivers came from the BCV8 championship. Rob Gravett (1990 champion) and (new this year)Rob Huff.
Hmm... changing your name to Rob may also help

Goes to show that the series chosen is less important than the results.

**Peter Mallett** · 26 Feb 2004, 14:19 (Ref:886310)

Actually I believe Robb Gravett raced an MGC(?) In the BCV8 championship.

acf8181 · 26 Feb 2004, 19:34 (Ref:886598)

Quote:

Originally posted by StephenRae
Acf..... I'm guessing that you haven't won all the races you have entered or you would have mentioned. Sadly there have been many over the years who have done more or less that and still got nowhere.
Selecting the right series to race in is not nearly as important as winning when it comes to furthering your career. So no matter how lowly you may persieve a championship to be, if that's the one you can afford that's the one you are going to have to do....and your going to have to win it.

one pole, one fastest lap, two thirds, two fourths, and a sixth or somethin (first time in wet, with no practice).

but sometimes its finances holding you back from challenging...i.e. not being able to afford a crash is a big prob.

Mike Holmes · 27 Feb 2004, 09:13 (Ref:887083)

Peter, I think perhaps you were thinking of Rob Huff who has raced an MGB with MGCC over the last few years?

**Peter Mallett** · 27 Feb 2004, 09:46 (Ref:887122)

No I know Rob Huff. Robb Gravett graduated to the BTCC in 1988 after racing in the BCV8s in an MGC. As I recall it was a Dove Grey GT.

Redracer77 · 27 Feb 2004, 10:02 (Ref:887140)

You should do the Ginetta G20 Championship - F3/GT billing with a little TV coverage with loads of track time - 2 qualifing sessions of 30 minutes and 2 30 mins races over the weekend. A sportscar which is really fun to drive and you could have a top car with a top team for about £10 to £15k - job done.

PM for any of the good teams etc

StephenRae · 27 Feb 2004, 10:03 (Ref:887141)

Years ago Andy Wallace won the pre 74 FF championship.. Jonathan Palmer started in sports cars..niether are 'traditional' career paths but it worked for them.

zefarelly · 27 Feb 2004, 14:00 (Ref:887354)

ChrisY . . .which one ! I did sell one via Ebay in an hour! stil agot a few more though

It'd be nteresting to see how much difference being able to afford crashes makes ??? I cant afford crashes . . .I cant really afford racing, but who cares !!!

***Chris Y*** · 27 Feb 2004, 14:31 (Ref:887381)

I dunno Zef, I just noticed there was one on Ebay from you a while ago. I think it was removed before the end of the auction anyway

graham bahr · 27 Feb 2004, 16:44 (Ref:887477)

10k? its gotta be the barc se track and race car championship (was in gear) and the barc se sss series, you will be able to build a car and compete for a season, as for getting noticed if you put up a good show you've a chance of getting a pic in one of the motoring weeklies, but more than that Track and racecar are keen to give good coverage. hoping for any more than that is probably a bit ambishous given the size of the budget.

acf8181 · 27 Feb 2004, 19:29 (Ref:887614)

thanks for your advice guys, but i've decided to hold out until i can do the clio's (or seat's if i get really lucky with ££££) as thats what i really want to do!

Instructor · 28 Feb 2004, 17:47 (Ref:888321)

Clios and Seats with no experience.. oooh scarey!

**Stephen Green** · 28 Feb 2004, 18:03 (Ref:888335)

*sighs* more sweeping for us poor marshals

martinparsons · 2 Mar 2004, 14:13 (Ref:891261)

10k should get you half a seasons arrive and drive in the smaller classes of Britcar - better value in track time as the races are minimum 100 mins and you have got half a chance of seeing yourself on sky TV.

MP

topwelshman · 9 Mar 2004, 22:55 (Ref:900131)

If you want fast saloons I would look at the Kumho BMW Championship - www.bmwrdc.com. The entry class (D) allows 180 BhP (at the wheels) in some of the best handling saloons ever made.

I spent a few months researching which saloon championship to join and had exactly the same ideas as you and for me the BMW's was the way to go.

For 10k you could buy a decent 325 with all the goodies and complete a whole season and have a scream.

topwelshman · 9 Mar 2004, 23:08 (Ref:900155)

If you want fast saloons I would look at the Kumho BMW Championship - www.bmwrdc.com. The entry class (D) allows 180 BhP (at the wheels) in some of the best handling saloons ever made.

I spent a few months researching which saloon championship to join and had exactly the same ideas as you and for me the BMW's was the way to go.

For 10k you could buy a decent 325 with all the goodies and complete a whole season and have a scream.

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