[WEC] Toyota LMP1 Discussion

[tyronnezx]

Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

Directly use Makinen to make the car instead of TMG, even Makinen tried to build the engine outside TMG.

Speaking of which, Seb Ogier is now a free agent thanks to VW. Wander if Toyota will utilise him with their WRC effort.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by tyronnezx

Speaking of which, Seb Ogier is now a free agent thanks to VW. Wander if Toyota will utilise him with their WRC effort.

Would be tremendous if they did. They would basically be paying to win the championship next year. the reality is that Ogier will win the championship no matter what he drives. He and Loeb are a cut (or four) above the rest

[TF110]

Makinen already wanted him, but now even more and seems they're in communication http://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/maai...ud?id=76135579

[tyronnezx]

Originally Posted by Articus

Would be tremendous if they did. They would basically be paying to win the championship next year. the reality is that Ogier will win the championship no matter what he drives. He and Loeb are a cut (or four) above the rest

I dont see the deal for not-to. It will be extremely stupid (of Toyota) not to explore this path. the best thing is most drivers for other teams are fully signed, so there is very little reason for them to look at Seb

For the love of god they need to cange the Livery for that car. Just as horeendous as the one in the TS050

[hondafan37]

Saga Koei (Toyota Gazoo Racing): " does not change our initial plan"
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/koe...ne-change-pas/

[TF110]

Interesting information on the hydrogen fc. Power vs weight is the biggest issue.

[Hiro]

Onboard from Shanghai with WEC App, Audi didnt lift that much but Toyota lifted and coasted a lot, which generally indicates diesel advantage although they are running on different progarams, but the gap is less than second.

[PorscheFanNo1]

Originally Posted by Hiro

Onboard from Shanghai with WEC App, Audi didnt lift that much but Toyota lifted and coasted a lot, which generally indicates diesel advantage although they are running on different progarams, but the gap is less than second.

Yep noticed the same, Toyota's were coasting a looong time at the end of the straight.

[TF110]

According to their press release, they made no attempts at a qualifying run. They even ran on used tires.

[Hiro]

Seems 2 toyotas are stronger here than Fuji

[kvenom]

Man the TS050 blows hot and cold seemingly on a coin toss.

[bentley speed 8]

I think Toyota only figured out how to make their high downforce package work during or after Mexico. Now it seems they finally know how to get the whole package working

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by kvenom

Man the TS050 blows hot and cold seemingly on a coin toss.

Looks like the car has a rather tight set-up window, and it's only now they're starting to have it nailed in.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

I think Toyota only figured out how to make their high downforce package work during or after Mexico. Now it seems they finally know how to get the whole package working

I still don't think the Toyota HDF kit works on a true HDF track. Fuji, Shanghai are not really high downforce tracks more like medium downforce. Toyota knew they would be closer as a result. We've seen this before. They almost won Spa and Le Mans. but were nowhere at Nurburgring and COTA

[hondafan37]

Pascal Vasselon (Toyota Gazoo Racing): "Le Mans had beautiful duels in the past"
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/pas...dans-le-passe/

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Articus

I still don't think the Toyota HDF kit works on a true HDF track. Fuji, Shanghai are not really high downforce tracks more like medium downforce. Toyota knew they would be closer as a result. We've seen this before. They almost won Spa and Le Mans. but were nowhere at Nurburgring and COTA

Shanghai has a really big sector 2 which is nothing but high downforce. In the e-i article Vasselon says that they're a little short on braking energy recovery and downforce.

If you go back to 2013, Toyota looked like they were way off pace with their high downforce package. They weren't as quick at COTA, then they go and put it on pole at Fuji, nearly won Shanghai but for a tire issue and won Bahrain. I think they just make a LM centered car and use whatever little resources are left towards the high downforce package. But it seems like certain tracks are better for their car. This year at Mexico they were competitive in the race but not over one lap, same for COTA.

[Starfish Primer]

Toyota is doing a great job with half the budget of their VAG counterparties.

[bentley speed 8]

What's even better is that they allegedly had to rush the project due to the sudden plan in changing of engine, and yet ended up doing a better job than Audi.
Now it seems they've found enough reliability. It will be interesting at Bahrain to see who lasts the distance

[TF110]

It looks good for them considering, setting up a really good challenge for next year. I wonder if they are really going to change the engine or if that's for 2018?

[kobefly]

Autosport says José MarÃ*a López is joining Toyota for 2017.

Vamos Pechito!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...017-wec-lineup

[BSchneiderFan]

So who's out?

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

So who's out?

Stephane Sarrazin

http://www.campeones.com.ar/0/nota/index.vnc?id=47920

[Damian Baldi]

I think things could change from here to Le Mans, because with Audi leaving, Porsche and Toyota are talking about a third cars from each team to have a bigger P1 grid.

[AoB Special Stage]

And they still have Pipo on the line. Toyota is in a great driver position indeed

[S griffin]

Pechito needed a new challenge after walking the last three WTCC titles, so I think he'll do well with Toyota