Words Of Wisdom From John Bowe... - Page 2

Compromised · 23 Feb 2016, 00:43 (Ref:3616899)

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Originally Posted by Terry S

If this is the case why not make it compulsory/control item

Would be cheaper for everyone

Exactly, cheaper. Thats the problem.

T8 make good money off either selling the components or selling the IP. You make it a control item, customers eg. BJR, just get the drawing off Supercars, make it themselves and cut out T8.

FAS33 · 23 Feb 2016, 10:32 (Ref:3616982)

GT racing and GT3 racing is so boring to watch. A bunch of V8 Supercar drivers smashed the regular GT drivers last time the Bathurst 12 hour came to town. Stick to Mediocre racing GT fans.

one five five · 23 Feb 2016, 11:57 (Ref:3616994)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

A bunch of V8 Supercar drivers smashed the regular GT drivers last time the Bathurst 12 hour came to town.

How do you figure that?

SVG's fastest lap in the winning McLaren was 2:01.5670 against Alvaro Parente's 2:01.6740. Is one-tenth of a second 'smashing' a regular GT driver, especially given that SVG was a regular GT driver last year??

Chiyo was faster than Rick Kelly in the GTR, Jaeger & Bastion were faster than Reynolds in the Erebus Merc, Rob Bell was faster than Will Davison in the other McLaren, Rene Rast was faster than Tander in the Audi

V8 drivers certainly held their own, they did NOT 'smash' the regular GT drivers though

You should do some research rather than just throw out completely inaccurate statements

FAS33 · 23 Feb 2016, 12:27 (Ref:3617002)

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Originally Posted by one five five

How do you figure that?

SVG's fastest lap in the winning McLaren was 2:01.5670 against Alvaro Parente's 2:01.6740. Is one-tenth of a second 'smashing' a regular GT driver, especially given that SVG was a regular GT driver last year??

Chiyo was faster than Rick Kelly in the GTR, Jaeger & Bastion were faster than Reynolds in the Erebus Merc, Rob Bell was faster than Will Davison in the other McLaren, Rene Rast was faster than Tander in the Audi

V8 drivers certainly held their own, they did NOT 'smash' the regular GT drivers though

You should do some research rather than just throw out completely inaccurate statements

Sorry who was it that won this years Bathurst 12 Hour again? Was it a GT regular or a V8 Supercar driver? lol. Who was the best driver in the team that won it?

Not to mention Shane Van Gisbergen Destroyed last years pole time. The next driver was half a second off his pace. That my friend is a thrashing.

Btw Shane is far from a "GT regular"...stop talking porkies bro.

D.R.T. · 23 Feb 2016, 12:44 (Ref:3617004)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Sorry who was it that won this years Bathurst 12 Hour again? Was it a GT regular or a V8 Supercar driver? lol. Who was the best driver in the team that won it?

Not to mention Shane Van Gisbergen Destroyed last years pole time. The next driver was half a second off his pace. That my friend is a thrashing.

Btw Shane is far from a "GT regular"...stop talking porkies bro.

Didnt Alvaro Parente win the Bathurst 12 Hours?

Didnt Van Gisbergen race in 2015 Blancpain series?

FAS33 · 23 Feb 2016, 13:01 (Ref:3617005)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Didnt Alvaro Parente win the Bathurst 12 Hours?

Didnt Van Gisbergen race in 2015 Blancpain series?

Didn't Shane beat Alvaro's quickest time?

Isn't Alvaro a seasonal GT racer?

Compromised · 23 Feb 2016, 18:06 (Ref:3617065)

I'm not sure I see the correlation between the Supercars drivers laptimes and the potential future success of GT3.

Fan engagement, lack of real r&d/engineering for local teams, cost, parity...these are things relevant to GTs future.

Reload · 23 Feb 2016, 19:24 (Ref:3617099)

Don't feed the troll.

Mark Petch · 23 Feb 2016, 19:25 (Ref:3617100)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I agree with JB, in so far as the domestic GT3 series is contrived, and as such it should never be considered the pinnacle of Australian Motor racing.

It does as it is designed to do, to suit wealthy playboy drivers, who would otherwise would never get to stand on the podium, and without those wealthy individuals the series would not exist.

V8 Supercars could go a whole lot faster than the GT3 cars if they had DTM style body work and tyre's etc, but that is not what the category is about, end of story really.

velly4 · 23 Feb 2016, 19:40 (Ref:3617107)

And GT3 cars could go a whole lot faster if they had an extra 150hp like a V8 supercar. That is a completely pointless argument.

Mark Petch · 23 Feb 2016, 21:10 (Ref:3617147)

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Originally Posted by velly4

And GT3 cars could go a whole lot faster if they had an extra 150hp like a V8 supercar. That is a completely pointless argument.

Perhaps you missed my point, agreed its a pointless discussion, and has nothing to do with the thrust of what JB is saying.

I am merely saying that I agree with JB and in particular that the GT3 Series is contrived racing, if people are happy watching that, no issue from me but it does not interest me at all, and I actually own one of these cars, and can afford to be the bunny driver but as I said its not the kind of racing that interest me, that is all I am saying, not trying to pick a fight just voicing my own opinion.

velly4 · 23 Feb 2016, 22:40 (Ref:3617169)

Not trying to pick fights either.
What makes Australian GT racing more contrived than V8SC?

The only thing I know GT does is the timed pit stops but is that really any different to having a specified amount of stops and amount of fuel you must put in the car to try and level the field?

Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of touring cars as the racing tends to be closer with a bit of rubbing which is impossible with the current GT3 cars.

peckstar · 23 Feb 2016, 23:09 (Ref:3617175)

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Originally Posted by velly4

Not trying to pick fights either.
What makes Australian GT racing more contrived than V8SC?

The only thing I know GT does is the timed pit stops but is that really any different to having a specified amount of stops and amount of fuel you must put in the car to try and level the field?

Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of touring cars as the racing tends to be closer with a bit of rubbing which is impossible with the current GT3 cars.

yes it is much different, The v8 rules are about making the cars equal. (No difference to BOP really) The Aust GT3 timed pit stop rules are about making the drivers equal. Significant difference

However that works for the series because gT3 is not about the drivers because its a mostly Amateur event

one five five · 24 Feb 2016, 05:38 (Ref:3617228)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Btw Shane is far from a "GT regular"...stop talking porkies bro.

SVG was a McLaren factory GT3 driver in 2015 and competed in all but one of the Blancpain Endurance Series events.

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Originally Posted by Compromised

I'm not sure I see the correlation between the Supercars drivers laptimes and the potential future success of GT3.

There is no correlation

I was just trying to get my head around a poster claiming V8 drivers 'smashed' GT drivers at the B12hr, when all the v8 drivers were (marginally) slower than their teammates, other than SVG who was a whole 0.107s faster than his GT teammate....

peckstar · 24 Feb 2016, 05:51 (Ref:3617238)

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Originally Posted by one five five

SVG was a McLaren factory GT3 driver in 2015 and competed in all but one of the Blancpain Endurance Series events.

so 4 events then? how many did he qualify?

FAS33 · 24 Feb 2016, 08:19 (Ref:3617268)

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Originally Posted by one five five

SVG was a McLaren factory GT3 driver in 2015 and competed in all but one of the Blancpain Endurance Series events.

There is no correlation

I was just trying to get my head around a poster claiming V8 drivers 'smashed' GT drivers at the B12hr, when all the v8 drivers were (marginally) slower than their teammates, other than SVG who was a whole 0.107s faster than his GT teammate....

Yeah that's what I call a thrashing. Alvaro is too slow

Mixer · 24 Feb 2016, 09:07 (Ref:3617280)

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Originally Posted by Mark Petch

I am merely saying that I agree with JB and in particular that the GT3 Series is contrived racing, if people are happy watching that, no issue from me but it does not interest me at all, and I actually own one of these cars, and can afford to be the bunny driver but as I said its not the kind of racing that interest me, that is all I am saying, not trying to pick a fight just voicing my own opinion.

I agree completely, AusGT is far from a professional series as much as it is awesome to see those exotic machines go around, without the benefactors it wouldn't exist. In other words it is not commercially viable in anything like its current form if it were run like V8Supercars.

rich07 · 24 Feb 2016, 09:17 (Ref:3617281)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

GT racing and GT3 racing is so boring to watch. A bunch of V8 Supercar drivers smashed the regular GT drivers last time the Bathurst 12 hour came to town. Stick to Mediocre racing GT fans.

Didn't know it was school holidays again

FAS33 · 24 Feb 2016, 11:19 (Ref:3617312)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Didn't know it was school holidays again

Of course you knew. Its on the Calendar.

rich07 · 24 Feb 2016, 11:24 (Ref:3617314)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Of course you knew. Its on the Calendar.

It hasn't been on my calendar for nearly two decades now

You should turn in now, be rested for teacher in the morning.

FAS33 · 24 Feb 2016, 11:38 (Ref:3617321)

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Originally Posted by rich07

It hasn't been on my calendar for nearly two decades now

You should turn in now, be rested for teacher in the morning.

Can you read me a bed time story before I do mum.

bluesport · 25 Feb 2016, 08:32 (Ref:3617606)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Can you read me a bed time story before I do mum.

Once upon a time there was an NRL team called the Melbourne Storm, and they cheated the salary cap, lost all points and titles...........

FAS33 · 25 Feb 2016, 09:45 (Ref:3617626)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Once upon a time there was an NRL team called the Melbourne Storm, and they cheated the salary cap, lost all points and titles...........

Thanks Aunty. But History says Storm have won 2 titles.

bluesport · 25 Feb 2016, 10:56 (Ref:3617647)

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Originally Posted by FAS33

Thanks Aunty. But History says Storm have won 2 titles.

They have to rate as one of the biggest cheats in Australian sporting history.

FAS33 · 25 Feb 2016, 14:23 (Ref:3617698)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

They have to rate as one of the biggest cheats in Australian sporting history.

Still more exciting then GT racing

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