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Last year Foxtel didn't show Carrera Cup or Group A/C.I presume this year the same will apply.If 10 mirror last year's coverage they will show 3 Carrera Cup races and the Saturday GT race.
Fox having to have the same ad breaks as 10 during this meeting has nothing to do with the anti siphoning list.Phillip Island Moto GP which is also on the list is shown ad free on Foxtel.It was part of the agreement struck between 10 and Foxtel when the share deals for V8's and F1 were signed. |
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It's our premier Motorsport in the country which is on display to the rest of the world when the pinnacle of Motorsport visits, that justifies them being given facilities which are better than generic supports imo. We need to be representing our top series in the best way possible.
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I think V8SC are most than looked after in many other ways at the AGP. Not sure why we need to pump there tyres because it's the Grand Prix. Are they that precious? |
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13 Mar 2016, 00:58 (Ref:3622411) | #31 | ||
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I personally never have an issue with Government money spent on things that I am interested in.
For one, it creates economic stimulus and employment. Secondly, Government money is spent on all kinds of bullshit that doesn't interest me, so at least my tax dollar is going to something I care about. Although at least with events like Townsville and Perth there are permanent benefits to all after V8Supercars got the deals done. Temporary facilities can't boast that, but we have temporary events all the time, Moomba is coming up, and others run all year so its a fact of life. |
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Begging the question?
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Even just OH&S requirements could be at play here, there are a lot of rules adn regulations all parties have to comply with - can we not let a ideological agenda lead our thinking? |
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13 Mar 2016, 04:45 (Ref:3622439) | #36 | ||
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How can it be OH&S when there are other support categories operating out of marquees? Working conditions would be similar - no?
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13 Mar 2016, 04:47 (Ref:3622440) | #37 | ||
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I have no bias. You are making the claims about this not being cost effective or required, I am just asking for proof.
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13 Mar 2016, 04:53 (Ref:3622441) | #38 | ||
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My proof is the other 150 support category entrants operating out of the support paddock. I am asking about the cost of the new pit lane vs the benefit - not claiming it
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13 Mar 2016, 04:55 (Ref:3622442) | #39 | ||
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Club racers don't really compare to v8s for oh&s rules for a start and this is called "begging the question". You have no information to offer but ask questions to seed doubt to support your agenda.
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Are Australian GT and Carrera Cup now considered club racers?
I think you might need to try again |
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13 Mar 2016, 05:13 (Ref:3622444) | #41 | ||
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Nice red herring, by comparison yes they are not really professional classes run for profit. V8sa would spend a lot more attending to oh&s as they have a lot more people employed and a lot more to lose. Now to your evidence?
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I had a ride around Albert Park yesterday before they close off the streets tomorrow. The V8 pits are just a bunch of marquee/tents with some hospitality stuff on top. Hardly earth shattering expenditure right there.
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Using your example - are Tekno or Walkinshaw Racing pro's when they race in V8SA but when they run their GT car (at the same event) become club racers where OH&S is less relevant? |
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You might want to "do some research" yourself but this is a MUCH bigger deal for OH&S than AGT or Carerra Cup where you have lots of micro-businesses loosely arranged under a category umbrella, not a single business with a whole bunch of shareholders employing 500+ people. I pay my WorkCover for my employees - do you? |
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I don't really have an issue with the pit structure. Besides, I don't think the F1 teams would want to share their pit apron. |
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Regardless OH&S standards/requirements are not determined by your profitability - this isn't differentiator here that you are hoping for Mixer. Next |
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13 Mar 2016, 07:00 (Ref:3622453) | #47 | ||
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Sounds like a bunch of people pushing a barrow here over 2/5th of **** all anyway.
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13 Mar 2016, 09:03 (Ref:3622458) | #48 | ||
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So how much more do those complaining feel is being spent on V8's to have their own pit lane?
The tents would have been used anyway, so no additional cost there. The concrete blocks dividing the pit lane from the track would have been there anyway so no additional cost there - although there may be a few extra blocks than previously. Those of you who remember the old location will know that there was a large amount of temporary roadway put in - that stuff ain't cheap and that cost no longer needs to be spent. Power - same, water - same. Hospitality on top of the V8 pit lane - increased revenue to AGPC. So, I'm at a bit of a loss to understand what the "additional costs" are - and therefore what all the fuss is about? |
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13 Mar 2016, 10:06 (Ref:3622464) | #49 | ||
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Just the usual senior citizens having their daily whinge.
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The question remains unanswered- where is the need or the purpose for such a structure? |
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