Changes at Buckmore

[BillyT]

As a few of you will be aware Buckmore Park installed some new kerbing at Cafe Cure and Symes Sweep. It was designed to stop people cutting the corner and my God it has. Theres about a 4 inch "shoulder" on the outside of the Kerbing. The kerbing is a bit different but is still Ok to go over. But if you were to hit the "shoulder" then its almost certain to flip you over.

So they put this kerb in to make it safer but really its made it more dangerous

[speedy king]

Don't like the sound of that one bit. OK, it may stop the ones who have brains intact cutting the curbs but what if your unlucky to loose control in to or through the corner and as going off the track hit one of the curbs. I saw something like that happen to a Cadet at a track, can't remember which one, but the poor kid got launched up and over this curb. I'm guessing it's like what the Daytona curbs are, flat(ish) until the grass where there's about a 4" curb at about 75 degrees angle?

[Elio]

http://www.buckmore.co.uk/content.php/64020

[luke]

Lol, that looks nasty.

[Alex Hodgkinson]

pah, don't be wimps, I've driven at places where all of the kerbs are like just that shoulder !

Seriously I reckon they're ok, it's what they've got to do to stop people cutting the track. They're a lot better than the metal bar they put on the grass-grid at PFI one meeting.

[BillyT]

Symes sweep is a dangerous place as you going almost full speed down a hilled right hander. There not that bad but if you hit them wrong at that sort of speed its going to be bad.

[speedy king]

Originally Posted by Alex Hodgkinson

pah, don't be wimps, I've driven at places where all of the kerbs are like just that shoulder !

Like Kimbolton..... http://www.hkrc.co.uk/images/gal/tkm...s/dscf2203.htm

[BillyT]

Its much more vertical at Buckmore but about the same.

[Alex Hodgkinson]

Fulbeck, Shennington, Chasewater, but to name a few

[#15 tkm 4/]

Mainly tracks which don't run Arrive & Drive's have the shoulder kerb's where us racers are supposed to know better than to go on them and if we do, we know there the consiquences... I.e Kimbolton! Massive kerbs about mid shin high on last corner?

Makes you wanna think.... * i don't know what about just makes me wanna think :P*

[BillyT]

Atleast at Buckmore there is abit of normal kerb that you can go over then the shoulder bit.

[Alex Hodgkinson]

Yeah, so it's alright I reckon, at least it's not just straight up.

Anyway at least you know that now if you want to shoulder anyone you've got a pretty good chance of taking them out totally over those kerbs

[Andrew Hornsey]

Perhaps if less drivers used the kerbs, the circuits would be less inclined to put such kerbs in.......

Ideally, what you want is a vallelunga kerb, which will shake you to bits if you driver over it, but isn't high so as to cause a kart to get launched

[BillyT]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hornsey

Perhaps if less drivers used the kerbs, the circuits would be less inclined to put such kerbs in.......

It would be difficult to stop the drivers using them. If you see a legitimate advantage you take it.

[ss_collins]

Ah you can hook that kerbing a good un.

[BillyT]

depends if its smooth or not, but you can yes.

[speedy king]

Curbs are part of the circuit though, so they should be used and abused. Where i race they say if you put all 4 wheels over the white perrimeter lines more than 3 times then you can get flagged off

[luke]

Originally Posted by speedy king

Curbs are part of the circuit though, so they should be used and abused. Where i race they say if you put all 4 wheels over the white perrimeter lines more than 3 times then you can get flagged off

We have the same rule. I tell you something, you wouldn't want all four wheels over that!

[BillyT]

Apparently the new kerbing is 0.8s slower.

[speedy king]

Thats quite a lot....

I've never raced there but that must be alot of curb that people WERE taking!

[BillyT]

Literally all four wheels over before.