British F3 at Spa

[N.A-D.R]

Lol nevermind my post, got my times wrong haha.

Hopefully Ricciardo grabs the qualy 2 pole and start winning again, hes had rotten luck lately...

[strider]

Adriano Buzaid just took pole for race 2 by six-tenths of a second from Bottas, Bianchi, Ricciardo, Boyd and van der Zande. Yesterday's hero Hywel Lloyd was 19th this time.

It was wet again, similar times to free practice yesterday.

T-Sport rather saved the day for the BF3 runners. After Donington last week you have to think they have a very good car in the wet.

[JamesRamone]

Buzaid is improving a lot over the past few race meetings

[strider]

Times from Qualifying 2.

[Last2LiftOff]

Q2 again on a wet track. Tough couple of days for Kevin Chen; not sure Philip Major's excuse.

Russian driver Max Snegirev was unable to take part after damage to his car from his first-session accident could not be repaired in time.

Originally Posted by Valker

Live timing: http://www.mstworld.com/timing/livet...ies=gt-support

Weather/Track: Sun/Dry

[strider]

Race 1 will be starting in about 5 minutes for anyone who wants to watch Live Timing.

Now it's sunny and the track is dry, which is probably a good thing as those were pretty much the conditions in which they qualified.

Sorry, L2LO, didn't realise you had just posted the timing link.

PS Safety Car out for Hywel Lloyd and F1 aspirant, Max Chilton, at a guess.

[Last2LiftOff]

No problem. I see what you mean about one of the guest drivers getting in the way of the regulars, what with Bianchi in 3rd and Bottas in 5th.

Edit: full course yellow, more coffee.

[bella]

timing screen says this in the information bit:

13, 27, 51 out on lap 1 - 51 and 13 contact at la source

christodoulou, grubmuller and nakajima...
sounds like lloyd and chilton got caught up perhaps?

incidentally, theyve got correa and jay bridger as running themselves - i guess that's because litespeed don't have an entrants licence thing yet?

edit again: and dias has done very well out of all the shenanigans!

[gomick]

This is the 1st time i have watched live-timing for British F3 - go Daniel

[Last2LiftOff]

Bianchi much quicker this lap (7/10ths)...uh oh.

Edit: you must've jinxed it for Dias there Bella.

[gomick]

Hope he dont take Daniel out

[gomick]

Daniel wins - woohoo

[strider]

Good drive by Ricciardo, soaking up pressure from Bianchi.

Huertas 5th on the road but penalised 1 minute (ouch!) for being out of position at the start.

That Live timing is very, very good indeed.

[strider]

Lloyd was quickest in the first and third sectors (the quick ones), but Bianchi was fastest through the long second sector and took fastest lap.

I'd say van der Zande's car was not to his liking.

[Last2LiftOff]

Hmm...

Still, points for 2nd I take it (and Rosenzweig in there at the end for 3rd).

[strider]

Race 1 results.

Yes, VDZ gets points for 2nd and Ricciardo the point for fastest lap as Bianchi is not a points scorer.

Also, Jake Rosenzweig is running in the Invitation Class (normally races in the F3ES) so is also ineligible for points.

[SpeedRacer89]

Rosenzweig is a Euro Series invitee to Spa and as such will not earn any points for his 5th place finish. He was the second Carlin driver behind Ricciardo though. I assume that for points purposes he, and Bottas and Bianchi ahead, will be dropped. Considering this is the first race for the Euro Series invitees on Cooper tyres, for them to grab 3 of the top 5 places is quite impressive.

[Last2LiftOff]

Oh, right, (you both are), of course, I sit corrected...and late for work. He must've overtaken Buzaid right at the end there? "Invitation Class", I like that. Sector timing and scoring, now if we could just get an occasional video replay.

Originally Posted by strider

This is the F3 timetable in UK time:
Saturday
12.15 to 12.45 Race 2 (13 laps subject to a maximum of 30 minutes)

Edit: any sign of a sponsor on Phil Major's car this year?

[strider]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacer89

Rosenzweig is a Euro Series invitee to Spa and as such will not earn any points for his 5th place finish. He was the second Carlin driver behind Ricciardo though. I assume that for points purposes he, and Bottas and Bianchi ahead, will be dropped. Considering this is the first race for the Euro Series invitees on Cooper tyres, for them to grab 3 of the top 5 places is quite impressive.

Yes, it is, but to put it in perspective ART is probably the best F3 team out there and has the pick of the drivers, so you would expect them to go well.

Carlin have a good car for Spa, as I mentioned earlier, so that would have given Rosenzweig an excellent basis to start from.

The other point is that the transition from Kumho to Cooper tyres does seem to be much easier than the other way around. Van der Zande won first time out at Silverstone.

Race report. Depending on whose fault it was, of course, the incident between Gutierrez and Boyd does highlight the danger I also mentioned earlier of invitation drivers damaging the chances of those who are fighting for points.

[SpeedRacer89]

Apparently ART drivers will start tomorrows race at the back of the grid because of an aero infraction. Seems a shame as it is unlikely that it would have made much of a difference in the rain and I have always thought it best to beat some one on the track rather than on appeal. Do not know which team pressed the matter.This puts Ricciardo on the first row w Buzaid on pole. I think Bianchi has the pace and the car to get to the front if the safety car is not out for long.

[strider]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacer89

Apparently ART drivers will start tomorrow's race at the back of the grid because of an aero infraction. Seems a shame as it is unlikely that it would have made much of a difference in the rain and I have always thought it best to beat some one on the track rather than on appeal. Do not know which team pressed the matter.This puts Ricciardo on the first row with Buzaid on pole. I think Bianchi has the pace and the car to get to the front if the safety car is not out for long.

Where did you hear that? It would be a scrutineering issue if true. There is an argument that in certain respects the F3ES cars do not run strictly according to the FIA Regulations and this may be an instance of that. Silly, if so, because they have to conform at Zandvoort and Macau. If someone jogged the Scrutineer's elbow I suspect it would be Carlin or Hitech.

Buzaid was penalised after the race for a start-line infringement, so here are the revised results:

Pos Driver                  Team                Car        Time/Gap
 1. Daniel Ricciardo        Carlin              D/V      32m06.562s
 2. Jules Bianchi           ART                 D/M         +1.509s
 3. Valtteri Bottas         ART                 D/M         +8.869s
 4. Renger van der Zande    Hitech              D/M         +9.817s
 5. Jake Rozenzweig         Carlin              D/V        +19.529s
 6. Esteban Gutierrez       ART                 D/M        +25.945s
 7. Victor Garcia           Fortec              D/M        +28.523s
 8. Max Chilton             Carlin              D/V        +28.817s
 9. Hywel Lloyd             CF Racing           D/H        +32.725s
10. Philip Major            Carlin              D/V        +34.542s
11. Henry Arundel           Carlin              D/V        +38.070s
12. Jay Bridger             Litespeed           M/H        +38.531s
13. Stephane Richelmi       Barazi-Epsilon      D/M        +38.689s
14. Daniel McKenzie         Fortec              D/H        +39.837s
15. Kevin Chen              Double R            D/M        +52.721s
16. Nico Marroc             Racing Experience   D/M      +1m11.237s
17. Carlos Huertas          Double R            D/M      +1m12.424s
18. Victor Correa           Litespeed           S/H      +1m13.323s 
19. Adriano Buzaid          T-Sport             D/V      +1m24.505s
20. Gabriel Dias            T-Sport             D/H      +1m39.575s

Retirements

  Wayne Boyd                T-Sport             D/V          9 laps
  Riki Christodoulou        Fortec              D/M          0 laps
  Daisuke Nakajima          Double R            D/M          0 laps
  Walter Grubmuller         Hitech              D/M          0 laps

Chilton and Lloyd recovered from their first lap skirmish to be 4th and 5th amongst the points scorers.

[HCForums]

For those who are interested about what happened at the start. Nakajima went wide at La Source, rejoined in the middle of the field over the astro turf and plowed into Christodoulou. The Fortec car went spinning and was then hit by Grubmuller, pushing poor Riki's car into the barrier. I think I saw also some contact between Lloyd and Grubmuller at the first corner before all of this happened. Nice recovery drives from Max and Hywel. Wonder how conditions will be tomorrow.

[strider]

According to this report, Chilton stalled at the start and Lloyd couldn't avoid him. Both continued but had to pit for repairs and then fight their way back.

[jordan123]

Originally Posted by Valker

Live timing: http://www.mstworld.com/timing/livet...ies=gt-support
Results: http://www.mstworld.com/msportevent....-Francorchamps

Thank you Valker,I don't know how you do it but I'm pleased you can

[SpeedRacer89]

anyone know the start time for race 2?