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Old 23 Nov 2017, 22:27 (Ref:3782501)   #576
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simple thing would be to make the cars just dam more sturdier so contact doesn't results in punctures or broken axle assembly
Blimey, they’d be even slower!
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Old 23 Nov 2017, 22:37 (Ref:3782504)   #577
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Blimey, they’d be even slower!
the super toures were not slow

this is what I mean, the wheels were inside the main body and somewhat protected




NGTC they are not protected at all, sticking outside of the main body with no real protection as Turks bitterly found out

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Old 23 Nov 2017, 22:41 (Ref:3782507)   #578
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So to discourage bad driving, we should... lessen the consequences? Brilliant!
I am not talking about the really dirty one that can cost the victim more than a place or the push too pass

but even so more protected wheels is a good step, who knows maybe Turks would have survived Race 3
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 09:37 (Ref:3782592)   #579
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Oh god, let's all go back to the 1990s already and be done with it....not.

Life goes on.
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 09:38 (Ref:3782593)   #580
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The Epps comment does seem odd... from what I've seen he is both talented and clean.
Go back and watch the Snetterton races very closely. http://www.itv.com/btcc/races/watch-...netterton-2017
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 10:51 (Ref:3782606)   #581
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Oh god, let's all go back to the 1990s already and be done with it....not.

Life goes on.
This. Stop living in the past...
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 13:12 (Ref:3782621)   #582
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This. Stop living in the past...
Agree
But they don't need to be so 'soft'
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 23:25 (Ref:3782748)   #583
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This. Stop living in the past...
yeah like the present and the future are such a sunshine place to be...

who knows maybe they came with the idea to make the cars drive themselves and remove the driver altogether
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 00:57 (Ref:3782781)   #584
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The BTCC is chockers so may not be room. If there is, a switch from RWD to FWD and the short sprint races will be a massive culture shock. Hope he has a ripper season and adds a hard edge to his driving.
In terms of race length, other than 2017 all of his previous few seasons have been spent in the junior Kuhmo V8 Series & V8Supercar Development Series which both have short sprint races as the norm, so he's very used to short sprint race formats.
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 01:00 (Ref:3782782)   #585
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Oh god, let's all go back to the 1990s already and be done with it....not.

Life goes on.
If it helps stop the ease of which contact can damage the wheel or suspension area, as Turkington found out, why wouldn't you change that part of the rulebook?
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 02:57 (Ref:3782803)   #586
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yeah like the present and the future are such a sunshine place to be...
It is actually. Large grid, great diversity in makes and models, multiple drivers battling it out for the championship untill the last weekend every year, entertaining races. Of course this isn't good enough for you, but to me as a foreign viewer from a country who's national Motorsport has pretty much vanished that's pretty darn great. You might not realise it or maybe you just like the negativity and attention too much, but you should be a bit happier and more proud of what you have there. Try to enjoy the good bits a bit more rather than enlarging the bad bits all the time and one day you might see that...
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 08:40 (Ref:3782845)   #587
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 09:20 (Ref:3782855)   #588
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If it helps stop the ease of which contact can damage the wheel or suspension area, as Turkington found out, why wouldn't you change that part of the rulebook?
I think you don’t really understand the economics of how modern motor racing really works, the unofficial “taxes” and how it all gets shared out...
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 10:12 (Ref:3782869)   #589
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If it helps stop the ease of which contact can damage the wheel or suspension area, as Turkington found out, why wouldn't you change that part of the rulebook?
Don't see it making any difference. It's the links that get broken in the main and if your wheel is turned when you hit another car something has to give. Same thing if you get shunted in the bottom of the rear wheel.

Beef them up and the energy has to go somewhere else where it's likely to cause far more damage and potentially put the car out of the whole meeting rather than one race.
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 10:15 (Ref:3782870)   #590
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Try to enjoy the good bits a bit more rather than enlarging the bad bits all the time and one day you might see that...
British way these days unfortunately. Moan on about how rubbish everything is here when in fact we've got it much better than most on many different levels not just motorsport.

Count your blessings and not your curses has never been more apt.
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Old 25 Nov 2017, 16:01 (Ref:3782917)   #591
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I myself have really enjoyed the most competitive season for a long time in 2017 for the BTCC. The only problem is, how 2018 follows that. Hopefully it should be at least almost as good
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To be honest Zandvoort isn't in too good of a state, some modernization wouldn't hurt at all. It won't be bulldozed, but a rigorous bit of redesigning would be very welcome.
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 09:58 (Ref:3783157)   #593
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To be honest Zandvoort isn't in too good of a state, some modernization wouldn't hurt at all. It won't be bulldozed, but a rigorous bit of redesigning would be very welcome.
Giving it an opportunity to overtake wouldn't hurt.
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To be honest Zandvoort isn't in too good of a state
Shame. It used to be a popular test venue back in the early 90s.
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The new owner (one of the Dutch princes) is both a good business man as a Motorsport enthousiast, so I've got good hopes. Perhaps were drifting a bit too much off topic though?
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 16:10 (Ref:3783208)   #596
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Shame. It used to be a popular test venue back in the early 90s.
Indeed. One team used to test there exclusively, including a few stops en route

Followed one time by a rather more lengthy stop at Dover on the way home!
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 11:35 (Ref:3783455)   #597
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In terms of race length, other than 2017 all of his previous few seasons have been spent in the junior Kuhmo V8 Series & V8Supercar Development Series which both have short sprint races as the norm, so he's very used to short sprint race formats.
Well aware of that, cheers. 3 races in a day? Front-wheel-drive? Slightly different.
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 14:01 (Ref:3783480)   #598
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https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...sue-gt-career/

So that is at least one person down from this year.
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So that is at least one person down from this year.
Good luck to Árón. His 2017 season was a nightmare, and he can be a bit rough round the edges at times, but he's a good driver and a really nice lad.

I wish him every success in whatever he does next.
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What happens now with MG? There can't be many drivers who would want a seat there for 2018 after their performance this season...?

I'm assuming we're going to get a TBL list very soon like last year?
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