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20 Feb 2008, 22:44 (Ref:2133684) | #101 | ||
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Bt15 #11 ???
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Also saw the R&M Auction's ad,for BT15 #11, emailed them for any info, but no answer. BT15 - F3-11-65 - is locked up in Melbourne, Australia, so it's NOT that car. In my records there is a BT15, Frame number AM11, with a Cap Chenoweth, in USA, may be that car? Denis |
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3 Mar 2008, 03:24 (Ref:2142930) | #102 | ||
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Cap's Brabham
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Cap did have a BT15, F3 20 65, AM11 but sold it to Japan about 10 or more years ago. Don't know anything about the RM Auction car. David Irwin Evergreen, CO |
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26 Apr 2008, 22:05 (Ref:2187700) | #103 | |
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Brabham BT 15
Re: Ch.no F3-7-65 and letters 79-85 on this thread.
I just happened to read an old Swedish magazine, "Teknikens Värld" -The World of Technics- from the end of 1965, with sort of a test of the Picko Troberg car, and there you can read, not knife sharp, but sharp enough, F3-7-65. In an earlier issue of this magazine he tells that he ordered the car already autumn 1964 from the double Champion Jack Brabham. |
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26 Apr 2008, 22:22 (Ref:2187709) | #104 | |
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Brabham BT 15
Have to add: On the chassis plate, of course.
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23 May 2008, 20:32 (Ref:2210033) | #105 | |
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Hi all, as i thought.
BT15 F3-33-66 That to me sounds like my Dads car ( Ian Beardsley) that he used on the hills in early 70s. Yes we did have an old Waring and Gillow truck and i do remember him having a Centaur afterwards. I will get onto him to get on this site so he can fill you in on any more info. Have had a word and all is confirmed. The car was bought in either 70 or 71 from a chap in Nottingham with a double barreled name but he cant remember who. The chassis was repaired at Brabhams after a shunt with a tree at Wiscombe park and then sold in the autum of 75. He has many stories of the car so will put together a brief history soon. will also try and scan some old photos. Cheers Tim Beardsley |
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27 May 2008, 14:10 (Ref:2213070) | #106 | |||
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Bt15 F3-33-66
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Thanks for your post Tim, The list of owners now reads, 66 Mike Knight F3 67 Tony Dean F3 67-68 J Hooper on the Hills 70-75 Ian Beardsley on the Hills 76-78 Mike Brett F4 (Mike & I sold the car for £2,250) 79-80 Mike Hartley F4 81-? Paul Tickner F4 89 Martyn Smith Historics 90 For sale in Autosport (for about £20,000) ? Would like to see some of your old photos Tim & Ian Last edited by Unit 2 Racing; 27 May 2008 at 14:19. |
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24 Jul 2008, 08:40 (Ref:2257026) | #107 | ||
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F3.22.65
A small update and extension of the history. Trevor Blokdyk wrecked the car at Albi late in 1966 and put himself in hospital for quite some time. September 1967 Frenchman Jean Sulpice appears in what AS describes as the ex Blokdyk BT16. [Blokdyk never had a BT16, but F3.22.65 is always described in race reports as a BT16 despite having a BT15 serial] Anyway, Sulpice has this car into the 1968 season. Chris |
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25 Jul 2008, 00:17 (Ref:2257492) | #108 | ||
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Bt15 F3-33-66
Going through some old files, found this in a letter from Martyn Smith, dated
14/12/1990 ; ownership records of F3-33-66. 1966 Mike Knight 1967 Tony Dean 1968-69 John Hooper 1970-71 John Berry 1971-75 Ian Beardsley 1975-78 Mike Brett 1979-80 Mike Hartley 1981-84 Tim Williams 1985 Hubertus Huppauff ( never raced, kept in England, owned only a few months) 1985-90 Martyn Smith. 1990 Advertised in A/S oct. 11,1990 for 28750 Pounds Hope this fills in a few holes Denis |
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9 Aug 2008, 10:01 (Ref:2266280) | #109 | ||
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Jim Sullivan being fitted in F3-3-65
Jim Sullivan was awarded Australia's first Driver to Europe scholarship award at the end of the 1963 season for his feats with a MK2a Sprite at Warwick Farm amongst other criteria. Jim not only prepared the car, built the engine but beat the BMC works cars. This award was jointly sponsored by the AARC, KLG/Lodge spark plugs and Divisions of S.Smiths and Sons (Australia) the instrument manufacturer
He left by boat to be met by Reg Parnell only Reg died of appendix complications whilst Jim was on his way there. Eventually a Co. named Promecon took Jim on board and bought a new 1965 F3 BT15 for him, and this photo is of him being fitted at the factory. Photos from the factory are all too rare, and Jim kindly consented to putting this photo on 10/Tenths. Jim went on to be a foreign correspondent for Racing Car News in the mid 60s and settled into a media career on his return. |
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17 Dec 2008, 19:30 (Ref:2357162) | #110 | |
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Hi all,
no pics as yet but a little more info on F3-33-66. the car was bought on the 21-10-1971 from a J A Berry. Another piece of old paper (and it looks as if its came from the 60s) was passed to me from dad saying, F3-33-66 BT-15-18 Origionaly supplied in 1965 to Mike Knight, Martigny France. Rebuilt 1967 using spare 66 chassis hence -66 and -18 chassis no, rebuilt by M.R.D Now how true all this is i dont know, its just what is says on the bit of paper Cheers Tim |
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8 Oct 2009, 17:59 (Ref:2556829) | #112 | ||
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BT 15 power plants
I was reading recently that in about 66 or 67 Holbays F3 engines were pretty good and that the combination of BT15 chassis and Holbay engine was pretty handy back in the day. I presume the engine was designated as R65, does anyone know whether that is right and whether there was ever a Holbay S65?
I would dearly love to discover a specification sheet for 1150cc Holbay Ford downdraft engine of circa 1965/6 built on a 5 bearing block (so it's not a F3 motor......) |
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11 Nov 2009, 19:04 (Ref:2580292) | #113 | |
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Hello to all,
I would be grateful if anyone could indicate basic dimensions of the Brabham BT15 (wheelbase, front and rear track, etc) Thanks, unipart |
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12 Nov 2009, 23:20 (Ref:2581108) | #114 | ||
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BT15 Specs
From BT15 Factory Spec. sheets of the period,
Wheelbase 90" Front track 50" Rear track 51" Tyres, Front 500x13" Rear 600x13" Weight 400kg (882lbs) Can send copies of original spec sheets if required Denis |
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14 Nov 2009, 11:01 (Ref:2581806) | #115 | |
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Many thanks, Denis
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27 Dec 2009, 00:31 (Ref:2605268) | #116 | ||
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BT15 F3-6-65
An article by Greg Lilley on the 1000cc F3 website, recounts his experiences racing F3-6-65, which he bought from Tony Dean, in 1966.
This changes a lot of thinking on the Chassis Numbers on BT15's. Denis |
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10 Feb 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2630914) | #117 | |
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Re post 10, BT15 F3-16-65, (frame number AM113) the car was with Mike Whatley and raced in F4 from 1975 to 78 and sold directly to Peter Dorricot from whom Stuart Rolt and I bought it in 1985, and returned it to the spec that Max Lane purchased it in. I have found letters from the Bowskills, Mike Whatley and Peter Dorricot whilst sorting old files.
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28 Mar 2010, 19:22 (Ref:2662066) | #118 | |||
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29 Mar 2010, 02:37 (Ref:2662349) | #119 | ||
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Chassis features include four-wheel Girling disc brakes, original stamped Brabham rear magnesium alloy uprights, and an original radiator upgraded to a new high efficiency core, yet still tagged with a #11 medallion from the Surrey London Radiator Company. The original alloy body molded gas tank was fitted with a new “Fuel Safe” fuel c
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17 May 2010, 21:52 (Ref:2692873) | #120 | |
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Was rambling through the Bt 15s as one does and saw post #90, both the Goodwin cars at Monaco in 65 were orange, Picko Troberg's was yellow. Goodwin Racing had 3 BT15s, Don Rawson who worked on the cars recalls building them up at the start of the season, all were Natalie's favourite shade of orange. Dave Rees' last drive with Goodwin racing was at Rouen in 65 when he ended up down a ravine to quote Don. Perhaps the rebuilt car sold early in 1966.
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22 Jul 2010, 14:05 (Ref:2730641) | #121 | |
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BT15
I see here there are references to my old BT15; we bought the car from Rodney Bloore of Sports Motors Manchester; they ran it for Peter Gethin in 1965, the year I had a Cooper T76; I crashed the Brabham at Goodwood badly enough to have to miss Monaco that year; from there it was a very quick car - should have won or come second with it at Reims - done on the line by Johnny Servoz for 3rd at Rouen..etc. I don't have the chassis number and I'm not clear about who we sold it to. The BT21's we had in 1967 - nos 24 and 28 - one was sold in bits to Frank Williams (24 I think) and 28 went to Len and Bluebell Gibbs.
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22 Jul 2010, 15:39 (Ref:2730678) | #122 | ||
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Welcome Mike. Very useful info - many thanks.
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2 Feb 2011, 16:45 (Ref:2824629) | #123 | |
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Mystery BT15
On ebay (USA) very recently. AM32, which I was led to believe was in Australia
Known frame numbers: AM32: 1965: Mike Loasby then unknown to 1974: Jack Nelson [USA] then 1979 Bruce Harrington, 1982 David Dexter, 1988 to present Patrick Ryan [AUS] Can anyone shed any light on this? No chassis plate apparently. Recent owners by the names 'Dave Dexter' and 'Greg Cosar' possibly East Coast USA. Currently with twincam fitted.Oh... and BT18 rear uprights, although I know those were a common replacement / upgrade / modification in period. Last edited by pantah; 2 Feb 2011 at 16:50. |
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15 Feb 2011, 23:28 (Ref:2831889) | #124 | |
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The 'Colorado" car is on Arch Motors frame #AM32, the ex David Dexter et al car. The Australian car was constructed of bits on a new reproduction frame, as I understand it. I suppose both cars share some bits from the original car, but the frame on this one, which I now own, has been verified as the original Arch Motors frame. After 45 years of kicking around as obsolete, unloved, disassembled, damaged, picked-over, and traded piles of bits, the provenance can get a bit hazy, eh what?
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18 Feb 2011, 06:21 (Ref:2833143) | #125 | |
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Brabham BT15 AM32
My BT 15 AM32 was purchased from Greg Gosar in the November 1992 in a complete but dismantled state by Steve Pike for me on one of his Healey 100 buying tours. Greg was a gentleman to deal with and all was as inspected and described thus.’’ Chassis frame accident damaged, sold as is in need of total restoration………..total Price $6000”
Car was damaged on the back right hand corner where a wheel had come off or an upright broke. Car came with an good 1100cc downdraft MAE fitted with twin down draft Webers , six speed Hewland in a large crate, and its SCCA etc logbooks. I proceeded to trace the cars history along with Steve who visited Jack O. Nelson who gave us a single choke weber (One barrel closed)and manifold along with a supply of plugs, another gentleman…..all free. Jack’s sons Pat and Kevin also drove AM32. As Australia has very stringent rules regarding provenance (and to stop fakes even then ) I procced to send letters seeking history to all and sundry in the US ….Brabham register, SCCA etc. and had a couple of letters published in some of the historic magazines……..all to no avail. I also contacted Duncan Rabagliati of the Formula 1 Register and found out about Mike Loasby. Another gentleman. Mike was kind enough to send me a broken gearknob………..done in the heat of battle as well as race programs and period photos of himself and car. The car was a backdoor one, and had no Brabham Chassis Plate from new, as Mike and mates made the car using the previous years parts in a new frame, bought as that. Entered in period as Brabham or Brabham Loasby. This might also help with population query on previous blogs. Close inspection of the US car will reveal that it is not a 1965 BT15 frame. 15’s were built in 65 and 66 remember. As I bought the car 19 years ago, when I did all the research , there was no motive to fake as a car was relatively inexpensive. I also wonder why, when the car only ever ran as F3 in England and FC in America the US a car with patently incorrect chassis and twin cam engine that it never used in the day is given any credence anyway. My car has almost bullet proof provenance except for 1966-74 and its US log books from 1974. My experience with anyone concerning AM32 until now has been exemplary. All racers and all honest but above all generous as well. Maybe the US car owner is mistaken, as I would hate to see a lawyers feast. Sad that Australia is often forgotten as a premier motor racing country.This is not the first time an Aussie car and identity has been misappropriated. |
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