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Old 25 Aug 2017, 07:03 (Ref:3761470)   #2126
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ha ha monopoly is a joke, Failing to recognise the modern world. Cant watch EPL on a murdoch owned producted.

More on more stuff is going to online streaming organisations.
Roy Masters who wrote this has written dozens of articles more anti pay tv than any of the people who post on this forum.He has been doing it for 20 years.The only other thing he gets worked up about to this degree is supporting his mate John Coates.He is a bit like a Fairfax version of Mike Jacobsen.Interesting to note in the Business section of the Herald today the FTA networks are pushing the government to legislate a maximum amount sports can charge for their TV rights.What a joke,
Also re EPL the current deal has been a financial blood bath for Optus as they paid $114mill more than they needed to and sign ups have been a long way below their projections.Likely to be back on Foxtel after May 2019 when the current deal runs out.Also Foxtel has had a significant fall in subscribers as their non sport subscribers have moved to cheaper streaming alternatives in huge numbers.The fall out is that sport is likely to be Foxtel's core business.They are restructuring the whole business to facilitate this.
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Old 25 Aug 2017, 07:10 (Ref:3761471)   #2127
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Roy Masters who wrote this has written dozens of articles more anti pay tv than any of the people who post on this forum.He has been doing it for 20 years.The only other thing he gets worked up about to this degree is supporting his mate John Coates.He is a bit like a Fairfax version of Mike Jacobsen.Interesting to note in the Business section of the Herald today the FTA networks are pushing the government to legislate a maximum amount sports can charge for their TV rights.What a joke,
Also re EPL the current deal has been a financial blood bath for Optus as they paid $114mill more than they needed to and sign ups have been a long way below their projections.Likely to be back on Foxtel after May 2019 when the current deal runs out.Also Foxtel has had a significant fall in subscribers as their non sport subscribers have moved to cheaper streaming alternatives in huge numbers.The fall out is that sport is likely to be Foxtel's core business.They are restructuring the whole business to facilitate this.
cheers, I am enjoying 3 weeks free of EPL thanks to Optus current deal, but then it stops

I am weary about the future where the pay tv world is becoming more fractured, sure when it was manily just foxtel, it come at a cost but there was just one cost, now we are seeing more entrants in the pay world who come at a lesser cost, but im required to ahev more providers and thus it costs more.

Still enjoying the Supercars coverage, best we have ever had
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Old 25 Aug 2017, 07:17 (Ref:3761472)   #2128
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Cant watch EPL on a murdoch owned producted.
Murdoch owned media is the primary EPL broadcaster in the UK - you certainly can watch EPL on Murdoch product - possibly more watch EPL on Murdoch than other platforms due to the UK arrangements.
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Old 25 Aug 2017, 07:39 (Ref:3761475)   #2129
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Murdoch owned media is the primary EPL broadcaster in the UK - you certainly can watch EPL on Murdoch product - possibly more watch EPL on Murdoch than other platforms due to the UK arrangements.


sorry, had expectation that people would know i meant in Australia, sorry wasnt clear
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Old 25 Aug 2017, 08:05 (Ref:3761478)   #2130
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sorry, had expectation that people would know i meant in Australia, sorry wasnt clear


No, you weren't clear. Strange ref to EPL when the big news about it for years has been the Sky pay TV deal in U.K. Was having a bit of fun though!
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Old 25 Aug 2017, 09:40 (Ref:3761490)   #2131
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I cant wait till next year and F1 stream online in the same way MotoGP do, add that to my NRL pass and Netflix and there's no need for Foxsports in this house.
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Cant watch EPL on a murdoch owned producted.
In Australia you certainly can watch EPL games on Foxtel, not live, but not long after.
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I cant wait till next year and F1 stream online in the same way MotoGP do, add that to my NRL pass and Netflix and there's no need for Foxsports in this house.
This is obviously the way of the future rather than FTA tv.However it is my understanding that Liberty can only introduce a streaming option into countries when the current tv contract expires.In Australia that will be 2021 whereas in the UK it won't be until 2027.
The big caveat in this is Australia's brand new 3rd world standard copper wire National Broadband Network.This is such a turkey with no technical solution possible at this stage of roll out that a large proportion of people trying to watch something on it see more buffering than anything else.

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Interesting. The MotoGP streaming service works a treat where I'm at, why are they able to have such a service yet F1 isn't? Peculiarities with the F1 contract?
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Interesting. The MotoGP streaming service works a treat where I'm at, why are they able to have such a service yet F1 isn't? Peculiarities with the F1 contract?
Yes.Bernie wasn't in to streaming whereas Dorna saw the possibilities.Liberty has to live with Bernie's contracts.
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Yes.Bernie wasn't in to streaming whereas Dorna saw the possibilities.Liberty has to live with Bernie's contracts.


Yeah Bernies legacy. Can't do any live streaming until the current contracts have run their course. Well unless they want to get sued by a broadcast partner that is.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 04:41 (Ref:3762215)   #2139
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Well, isn't that that one out of the blue?

It puts another serious player into the TV market here - hopefully ends up being a good thing.
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Well, isn't that that one out of the blue?

It puts another serious player into the TV market here - hopefully ends up being a good thing.
does it? Some articles online are suggesting the opposite. They may cut costs as they can rely on their international coverage to fill gaps
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does it? Some articles online are suggesting the opposite. They may cut costs as they can rely on their international coverage to fill gaps
Well, it certainly brings a serious player into the market. What they do with their new purchase remains to be seen of course.

Couple of further articles but no-one will really know everything unless it happens and once they see how the business is run:
CBS only shareholder of 10?
Speculation on how it'll operate
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Maybe they can chopper in Ken Squire to front the Channel 10 Supercars coverage now
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I subscribe to Foxtel but every less media outlet controlled by the Murdoch's is a good thing for democracy.I doubt CBS would bother to go into this if they saw it as a bargain basement operation.This is one of the main reasons it got into trouble in recent years.It also breaks up what has been the cosy Foxtel/Ten relationship with motor sport contracts.Combining this with the current Foxtel restructure there will be implications for the next round of F1,Moto GP and Supercar contracts but impossible to foresee what they will be.
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CBS purchase of course still needs to be approved by creditors & FIRB: Few steps to be taken
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CBS purchase of course still needs to be approved by creditors & FIRB: Few steps to be taken
It seems a good deal for creditors, of which CBS is the largest.

Bad investment for shareholders though
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Yep - smaller investors are starting to fire up & in the meantime share values of rival networks have fallen: Trouble at Mill?
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If Lachlan Murdoch and Bruce Gordon got it instead of CBS, we will be seeing FOX Sports doing sports for Ten.

I guess we will still see TEN promoting FOX in the upcoming few years for the A League, maybe Socceroos from October
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The first of the shared Ten/Foxtel shared motor sport contracts up for renewal is Moto GP where the current deal expires end of 2018.What happens there might be a clue about CBS's future in F1 and Supercars coverage.
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How do we actually know whether CBS isn't doing the same thing to VESA?

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