2012 Japanese Super GT - Page 32

Asa · 20 Jul 2012, 04:05 (Ref:3108871)

With these manufacturers involved, I can see the series hosting exhibition races in places like China, India, Brazil and Russia. Maybe not all in the same year, but alternating years or with fewer than regular entries.

MagVanisher · 20 Jul 2012, 04:29 (Ref:3108873)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

Its also alot more attractive for an American DTM series now that six Major(understatement) manufacturers have cars that can be run by good privateers like Chip Ganassi or Roger Penske.

Hmm, both ITR and JAF should invite the Big 3 from Detroit to field their cars too in American DTM. I would like to see pony cars running alongside the LFA, GT-R, M3, and many more.

On the other hand, what will happen now to the GT300 class? Will it stay the same?

tbz · 20 Jul 2012, 06:42 (Ref:3108888)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Big news from Germany!

"Japanese DTM" coming in 2014
http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/..._12071901.html

April 2012

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/..._12042501.html

It's the same like he said few months ago.

I Rosputnik · 20 Jul 2012, 10:07 (Ref:3108950)

I'm sure Dome will be dancing around about this...

What happens to Super GT if this happens? Does Super GT become touring cars and DTM become sportscars? Vise Versa?

kurski · 20 Jul 2012, 10:18 (Ref:3108962)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

What happens to Super GT if this happens?

I hope that the Super GT cars appearance of does not change the DTM cars look like. Super GT series must not be destroyed.

lms · 20 Jul 2012, 10:22 (Ref:3108965)

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Originally Posted by kurski

I hope that the Super GT cars appearance of does not change the DTM cars look like. Super GT series must not be destroyed.

"The Japanese Super GT series will adapt the rules of the DTM in 2014" I guess that means dtm regs for gt500 cars, except honda

I Rosputnik · 20 Jul 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3108970)

Why not just make a common rule set across the DTM, Super GT and the US DTM (if it's happening) that allows for manufactures to choose between two or three monocoques by private companies?

Japanese Samurai · 20 Jul 2012, 10:54 (Ref:3108979)

Suzuka official test Day 1 result (wet condition)
http://supergt.net:8080/upload/files..._633791427.pdf
http://as-web.jp/photonews/?c_id=2
*Wet tire performance: MI > DL > BS > YH (by Tsutomu Tojo /engineer of team Tom's)
*Nissan introduces 1)bonnet attachment, 2)aero-side mirror and 3)new rear-cowl.

DS" · 20 Jul 2012, 12:09 (Ref:3109012)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Big news from Germany!

"Japanese DTM" coming in 2014
http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/..._12071901.html

Yeah, right! The old man's been telling that crap for months now. Why don't the Super GT organizers tell something about that? It's always the ITR "bragging" about it...

MagVanisher · 20 Jul 2012, 13:05 (Ref:3109037)

So then, it seems that JAF would be adapting to DTM regs on 2014. But the question is whether they would implement hybrid technology during 2014, who will provide the chassis for both Super GT and DTM, and will the NSX compete on that year.

For now, it's resolved. But now, the only thing they need to tackle at this moment is Grand-Am, regarding the proposed DTM series in America, as well as whether the DTM/GT500 cars are allowed to compete in the Rolex Sports Car Series, including the 24 Hours at Daytona.

TF110 · 20 Jul 2012, 18:58 (Ref:3109200)

I'd rather DTM adopt GT500 regs. It's seemingly a compromise. Because they will be using new cars in 2014. So hopefully not a 'spec' series with common bodywork. The transition period must be a key to this. Lets hope this sparks interest in American makes.

rich07 · 21 Jul 2012, 02:05 (Ref:3109325)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Suzuka official test Day 1 result (wet condition)
http://supergt.net:8080/upload/files..._633791427.pdf
http://as-web.jp/photonews/?c_id=2
*Wet tire performance: MI > DL > BS > YH (by Tsutomu Tojo /engineer of team Tom's)
*Nissan introduces 1)bonnet attachment, 2)aero-side mirror and 3)new rear-cowl.

That bonnet piece is interesting. Im guessing its for aero advantage? I remember Phoenix doing roughly the same thing with their Corvettes at Budapest in FIA GT some years ago. Im sure it was only for that round though.

I hope all this Japanese manufacturers to DTM in 2014 is a load of garbage thought up by someone to grab some more traffic for their website. It sure looks like it. If the Germans want to race in SGT then make a SGT car. If Nissan et al want to race in DTM then they build some DTM cars. Do not want to see SGT become a DTM copy. Urgh. That would be the end of a fantastic championship such as Super GT.

Articus · 21 Jul 2012, 05:54 (Ref:3109353)

The bonnet piece looks very disruptive to the airflow. Its way too steep!

BBSB · 21 Jul 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3109405)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich07

I hope all this Japanese manufacturers to DTM in 2014 is a load of garbage thought up by someone to grab some more traffic for their website. It sure looks like it. If the Germans want to race in SGT then make a SGT car. If Nissan et al want to race in DTM then they build some DTM cars. Do not want to see SGT become a DTM copy. Urgh. That would be the end of a fantastic championship such as Super GT.

AMEN.

Articus · 21 Jul 2012, 10:22 (Ref:3109409)

And if anybody is going to absorb another promoters regulations the DTM should be forced to adopt the SuperGT Rules. Those SGT cars look so seductive!

MagVanisher · 21 Jul 2012, 10:25 (Ref:3109412)

If Super GT becomes another carbon copy of DTM, then all of the plans such as hybrid technology will be gone up in smoke?

Sure, they're already merged. But now, I want to know what will be the future specs for the proposed chassis tub too.

Speed-King · 21 Jul 2012, 10:31 (Ref:3109414)

The DTM-cars are hybrid capable as well.

MagVanisher · 21 Jul 2012, 10:59 (Ref:3109422)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

The DTM-cars are hybrid capable as well.

Okay, but that's the question of when.

Still, I have no idea of what aspects will the GT500 cars lost once they switched to DTM tubs.

Japanese Samurai · 21 Jul 2012, 11:11 (Ref:3109426)

Suzuka official test Day 2 result (wet)
http://supergt.net:8080/upload/files..._386723630.pdf
*CR-Z GT equips with canard wing/diveplane and rear skirt.

Japanese Samurai · 21 Jul 2012, 12:21 (Ref:3109438)

BMWZ4GT3 (#0) was updated to 2012 spec.
http://ameblo.jp/nob-taniguchi/entry-11307427334.html

The feature of 2012 spec
1) new exhaust manifold
2) 3D shape rear wing
3) organ style pedal
4) The damper was changed into KW from Bilstein.

TF110 · 21 Jul 2012, 20:29 (Ref:3109541)

2:07 for the GTR GT3 compared to 2:11 for the Prius GT300. That's quite a big difference.

Articus · 22 Jul 2012, 00:59 (Ref:3109599)

Its a Prius. What do you expect?

TF110 · 22 Jul 2012, 04:41 (Ref:3109623)

That Prius is among the fastest GT300's.

Articus · 22 Jul 2012, 06:27 (Ref:3109629)

It meant that in jest. One does not expect a Prius to go fast haha.

MagVanisher · 22 Jul 2012, 07:18 (Ref:3109636)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

That Prius is among the fastest GT300's.

But even though it's faster, it cannot beat the likes of those GT3 cars unless it has a lighter weight and a robust hybrid system.

BTW, does anyone think that there are no live streaming for the rest of the season?

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