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Old 17 Feb 2004, 20:51 (Ref:877536)   #26
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Hmmm. All we seem to get is people bagging Minardi, Jordan, Jaguar,DC, Verstappen... I'll be glad when the season starts and people have something more positive to talk about.

Just imagine how active the forum would be with headlines like these...

Webber wins amazing Melbourne GP for Jaguar...
Bruni wins Imola! First ever win for Minardi...
Jordan wins at the Nurburgring, Hiedfeld in control..
DC wins Monaco, Canada, Silverstone, Monza, and USGP!
Pantano shatters GP regulars with first win at the French GP. France goes wild!
Sato wins Japanese GP in a year where rookies shine!

what an amazing year! And ten years on we'll go
"Ah.. 2004...Those were the days.. A vintage year for F1..."

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Old 17 Feb 2004, 20:57 (Ref:877547)   #27
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now that would be a change!
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 23:00 (Ref:877707)   #28
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If the Jordan can continue to up its pace during testing, hopefully Heidfeld can pick up regular points - even if they're only 5th-8ths...

Freak wins like last years Brazil happen only once every few years... Panis '96, Herbert '99, Fisichella '03.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 05:35 (Ref:877960)   #29
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If the Jordan can continue to up its pace during testing, hopefully Heidfeld can pick up regular points - even if they're only 5th-8ths...

Freak wins like last years Brazil happen only once every few years... Panis '96, Herbert '99, Fisichella '03.
Off the topic, sorry, but I have to, I don't agree with coomparing the victory of Panis with the one of Fisichella, Panis was a front runner all the weekend, and besides 96 and the beggining of 97 he was running like the demon. It was a lucky race, I am not saying so, but not a "crazy" one.

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Old 18 Feb 2004, 09:38 (Ref:878059)   #30
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Testing times..... Imola 17/2/03

Yes, as mentioned earlier bizarly the EJ14 seem to be on a par with the 2003GA2004 aka the Sauber. But as they say its only testing.

17 February, Imola - Italy
Place Driver Team Time laps
1 F. Alonso Renault 1.20.493 77
2 J. Trulli Renault 1.20.767 84
3 F. Massa Sauber 1.22.028 69
4 G. Fisichella Sauber 1.22.331 62
5 N. Heidfeld Jordan 1.22.408 62
6 G. Pantano Jordan 1.24.274 60

I also agree that Jordan is in a better state than this time last year when it really did look like curtains. Tomorrow, acording to statements by the head of test engineering James Robinson, "Now that we have over 2500km on the EJ14, tomorrow we hope to be able to start looking at performance criteria."

So watch out Renault, Ferrari et all

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Old 18 Feb 2004, 10:19 (Ref:878104)   #31
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Good to see the Jordan going well (even if it is only testing). They've managed to get a good driver lineup when for so long it looked like it would be 2 pay drivers and the car seems to be going ok.

I can't see Jordan picking up many points (or any of the other midfield teams for that matter) the big 3 and Renault will pretty much lock out the points positions unless they have problems.
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Yeah.. they're going really well!!!

Last and 2nd to last in a field of six!!!
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Jordan Merc's 05, mystery sponsor.
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Yeah.. they're going really well!!!

Last and 2nd to last in a field of six!!!
But they're not far off the pace and have had good reliability. Considering the problems they've had and the lack of time the drivers have had in the car so far I'd say they were going well. It's all a matter of expectation - Jordan can't realistically be expected to match the front runners but so far they seem to be reliable and making progress.
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Old 20 Feb 2004, 12:44 (Ref:880370)   #35
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Jordan Merc's 05, mystery sponsor.
They are looking a bit German aren't they.

Lead driver is German and previously a Mercedes protege.
2nd driver is previous German F3 champ.
Third driver is German ex-F3 driver.

Hmm
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