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Enforcing grass roots motorsport to go fully safety compliant with roll cages, harness etc will kill grassroots motorsport.
However, this event appears to be "street legal" drag race using the race circuit. Didn't anyone learn from Todd Wilkes accident all those years ago at Eastern Creek? |
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I heard from a couple of mate involved in drag racing, that the Monaro that crashed was told they weren't welcome back at Willowbank unless they fitted the appropriate safety items as per the rules governing drag racing. This was because they were doing sub 10 second quarter miles (and sub 6.49 eights) at over 145MPh (230+kph) at the quarter. They were under the impression that the car did have a roll cage then either. If the cars are capable of going that fast, surely they should be doing some safety checks and meet a decent standard of safety. |
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Have heard that as well.
Car ran a 9 or something on it's one and only pass, and was told to call it a night, until it met the standards for a sub-10.5sec car. Which is full cage, containment seats, parachute, license upgrade, etc. |
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9 Sep 2017, 20:14 (Ref:3765706) | #54 | |
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Precinct not secure
The Qld Government released the "ShapingSEQ" Long Term Plan last month (August 2017). It outlines the development of the Urban Footprint for South East Queensland to 2041 to accommodate the extra 5 Million people.
The Ipswich Motorsport Precinct is included in the future Urban Footprint !. Former Cr Paul Tully & Deputy Mayor of Ipswich was on the committee that put the plan together. They have also included the RAAF Base Amberley in the Urban Footprint - unbelievable !. |
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15 Sep 2017, 05:39 (Ref:3766974) | #55 | |
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The fantasy game is now over - Ipswich Council is shutting down the company formed to redevelop the Ipswich Motorsport Precinct.
No mention of this news from V8 Supercars - they have really been taken for a ride on this little escapade. |
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In the meantime, the Motorsports Precinct does need work, hopefully the various track operators there can work out how to get it done. |
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19 Sep 2017, 04:17 (Ref:3768481) | #57 | ||
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Former Chairman of the motorsport precinct company & deputy mayor Paul Tully has stood down: More goings on in Ipswich
Wonder how much more of this is to come? |
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Just a question of who pays for the upgrades or no Supercar event in 2018.
Can the Council keep everyone happy? |
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9 Dec 2017, 01:14 (Ref:3785951) | #60 | |
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It remains to be seen what "safety upgrades" are required in the report if any ?. Does the report include a detailed design of the "upgrades" and a detailed construction estimate - or is the $1M just a guess ?.
The track still complies with all the runoff and safety standards set by the FIA, so it will need to force a change there before anyone starts writing cheques or agreeing to anything. If Supercars requested the report so they can get the track licence they need, it makes sense that Supercars will have to find the funding. They won't spend their own money of course, but will convince the State Government they need the help ($$$) to keep the remaining V8 teams in Qld. There is zero chance that ICC will fund any "upgrade". |
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9 Dec 2017, 02:04 (Ref:3785956) | #62 | |
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I am conversant with the current FIA Standards - QR meets those standards, so any "safety upgrade" required in the report will need some serious & detailed justification.
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Of course, as you are conversant with FIA requirements, you'll know that they are not standards but are in fact guidelines. An accredited FIA inspector has leeway to require either more or less than the guidelines, dependant on the individual requirements of the track being inspected. |
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9 Dec 2017, 07:38 (Ref:3785972) | #64 | |
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The track may be compliant with a particular standard, but not to the standard required to host an event for the likes of Supercars (Grade 3), or any catagory that sits at the same tier as Supercars, in the eyes of the FIA.
If the track is no longer FIA Grade 3-compliant, CAMS are not obligated to issue the required licences to Supercars, or the likes of The Nationals. |
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9 Dec 2017, 09:31 (Ref:3785983) | #65 | |
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Well then Supercars have backed into a corner - If they can't find a $1M for the "safety upgrades" the Qld Teams will be testing at a circuit not part of the championship - simples.
Maybe the Qld Teams might chip in for the "safety upgrade" - they do test there ?. Could Roger & Roland buy the circuit from ICC ?. The hard sell will be convincing the punters that street circuits are safer than an FIA compliant permanent facility, when they drop the QR Round from the 2018 championship. |
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The area is all Govt/Council land ,(in the old days Crown Land), the mines have the land around it, Tea Tree land fill site next door. The new make up of Ipswich council is not looking at spending money on the area like the former mayor was keen to do. It is the right place to build , as it falls under the Amberley Air Force air space,so you cannot be shut down,like Lakeside. Just have to convince the Govt/Council to upgrade the highway and road networks to get the punters in and out |
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Unfortunately the Ipswich Motorsport Precinct has no protection against development encroachment in the new (August 2017) ShapingSEQ Regional Plan.
The areas surrounding have been included in the Urban & Economic Development Footprint to 2035. Study the map carefully on Page 99 & you will see the future of IMP is pretty grim. |
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Not the Dept Of Defence others with a vested interest to convert Greenbank into housing. Holsworthy did a have a sell years ago, it is now called Cambelltown. Middle Head and North head in Sydney went as well. Ingleburn,and others have gone as well, in other states . So yes , Amberley may in years to come a new suburb of Ipswich. |
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There is land set aside along the south of IMP for a rail corridor to go in, servicing the industrial area but also maybe having a passenger station for access to IMP. There are also existing plans in place to bypass Willowbank township and Amberley with the highway and have the IMP entry as an overpass rather than the current level turnoff entry. There is a large zone around and including IMP categorised as high noise (or words to that effect) for planning purposes. This information was all in the IMP development plan done by Apex and updated recently. The future isn't necessarily grim but for sure there is work to be done. |
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The Laverton RAAF base runway area in Melbournes then outer western suburbs was shut down and turned into housing, the hangers, accommodation and training buildings are still there and the base still in use.
For how much longer I do not know but the roads in the new hosing area dead end at the base boundary fence waiting for the bulldozers. Likely what is there will be moved interstate or to the Point Cook RAAF base aprox 5km south of the Laverton base, Point Cook is the oldest continuously operating Air Base in the world and has the official RAAF Museum located there. It has a State Park, lake, wet lands and Port Phillip Bay around it which hopefully will limit suburban growth getting too much closer. |
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Ipswich City Council have confirmed to VASC that the required FIA circuit works will happen at QR for this year: They're happening
Council also wants to sign a new deal: 2019 again Last edited by Tourer; 20 Feb 2018 at 11:06. |
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