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Old 7 Oct 2017, 13:35 (Ref:3772460)   #361
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And they wouldn't have the logo of a rival manufacturer in the background
You mean the manufacturer being run out of the same stable, and that Faux has also been involved with?
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Old 7 Oct 2017, 19:07 (Ref:3772579)   #362
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To be fair JP isn't the only person missing from that photo. Just because he's not in a publicity shot doesn't mean there is bad feeling. People read too much into impromptu things. They wouldn't have the tow panels missing off the front if it was something staged well in advance for instance.
Indeed we don't even know if that photo was to mark Faux's departure, or to celebrate the title victory for the car he designed.

It looks more like a Sutton-related photo, given that his engineers and mechanics are the most prominent.
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Old 8 Oct 2017, 12:16 (Ref:3772987)   #363
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Photo was NOT to mark Carls departure. It was a celebratory snap to mark Ash and the teams achievement back at base of everyone around at the time.

That's one of the MG trailers visible through the window, the car is as it was loaded up and brought back from Brands: tow covers off, sticky tape on body, panel misalignment from minor contacts etc.

I still believe JP to be departing, and I also suspect a part of his loss of form was Carl directing this year rather than main focus at the track of engineering JP as in previous years.

Best wishes to Carl on his new venture and also to those continuing at BMR; there is every reason to believe Ash can mount a strong defense of his title next year.
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 05:33 (Ref:3773806)   #364
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Chilton again in the Astra?
https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...ack-btcc-2018/
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 10:52 (Ref:3773835)   #365
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Hopefully. Both for the team and Chilton the continuity is necessary and for Tom IMHO is better to choose BTCC instead of WTCC as the latter has sort of complicated future and nowadays World Title in touring cars is nothing special with 15-car grids and two manufacturers.
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 10:55 (Ref:3773837)   #366
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The Vauxhall looked good the last two meetings of the season, so hopefully they can be up there more often in 2018. I think they should keep Sonic as continuity will be important in their second season
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 13:10 (Ref:3773850)   #367
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If there are any Subarus in 2018.....
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Now, I heard that too....
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That Mr Bleach is a rumour I heard at the weekend but thought it way wide of the mark... even if BMR fold I would think one of the other teams would come in for the cars at the right price.
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Purely to fan the flames of rumour here, you could maybe read something into this from Jason on BTCC Crazy.
From the Adrian Flux blog:

'And the good news is that Sutton will back in a Subaru next year to defend his crown. Roll on 2018.'

Sounds like Adrian Flux might be putting their support fully behind Sutton - does that mean Plato will no longer be their voice and spokesperson in the BTCC?
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 15:42 (Ref:3773874)   #368
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Good news about Sutton returning.

I would like to see both Chilton and Proctor back in the Astra's as well.
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Old 12 Oct 2017, 18:38 (Ref:3773889)   #369
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Great news having Sutton/Subaru confirmed.

I too hope Sonic and Proctor return; the formers experience and the latters raw tallent complemented each other nicely. Car was particularly good at Brands.
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Old 13 Oct 2017, 07:48 (Ref:3773943)   #370
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Good to know about Sutton that early. I'm really curious where Plato will end up.
When it comes to Vauxhall I think they should keep both Chilton and Proctor. Young Proctor was impressive this year
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Glad Ash is staying, it was a no brainer
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Old 13 Oct 2017, 09:43 (Ref:3773957)   #372
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The Vauxhall looked good the last two meetings of the season
The Rob Huff effect, Chilton isn't good enough to lead a team through development.
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The Rob Huff effect, Chilton isn't good enough to lead a team through development.
Agreed, thatís one of the reasons Arena got TO-C back in the Focus, Chilton couldnít push the car development. Proctor has really impressed me, I honestly thought heíd struggle, but heís shown real potential. Tomís a solid peddler but not a true lead driver.
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From the Adrian Flux blog:

'And the good news is that Sutton will back in a Subaru next year to defend his crown. Roll on 2018.'

Sounds like Adrian Flux might be putting their support fully behind Sutton - does that mean Plato will no longer be their voice and spokesperson in the BTCC?
Interesting to read that Sutton will be back in a Subauru, but it doesn't say that BMR are running the car.
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The Rob Huff effect, Chilton isn't good enough to lead a team through development.


So you think Huff helped the Vauxhalls get up there at Brands because his presence at Silverstone helped development? Just curious
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