Argo - Page 9

jleonard · 3 Jan 2010, 06:19 (Ref:2607519)

This could be the largest group of ARGO atlantic cars ever entered in a race. #27 is JM5-036FA, #16 is JM9-056FA and #17 is JM11-065FA. Photo taken in1987 at Portland Oregon, USA.

Dan Rear · 4 Jan 2010, 13:28 (Ref:2607980)

Great pics there Joe. The Nugent car, -044, was a JM5 not a JM8. You can see its very like the red -036 one. JM9 -056 is ex-Tyrrell Arnold I think.

jleonard · 5 Jan 2010, 01:37 (Ref:2608221)

Adds from 1980.

jleonard · 5 Jan 2010, 04:35 (Ref:2608253)

Before the Christmas stuff went back into storage I brought out some of my ARGO info. Photo taken at factory spring 1981. Seat fitting in one of the two atlantic JM9s built, either 056 or 057. I can't remember the names of the people, anybody recognize them?

jwblackwell · 5 Jan 2010, 05:50 (Ref:2608266)

The blue #44 has an Anglia Cars Serial plate stamped JM8, now Argo did go on to build other JM8's very different from the #44 blue Atlantic. The tub of the blue Nugent car #44 has spars extending from the tub back along side the BDA. The red car the Rackham/Blackwell #36 JM5 has no spars just trailing links and the tub is wider than the top body work, both cars share the same F3 body work. As James has posted we also owned a JM9 Atlantic and a JM11 Atlantic and this past winter we resurected JM16 number 101 the GTP car from 1984 built for Don Bell and powered with a Buick V6. Oh and our god son is working on a JM14 FC car, and God only knows what serial number they gave it, no marks anywhere log book doesn't say just calls it a Argo JM14 year og mfg. 1984.

Kevin D · 5 Jan 2010, 06:29 (Ref:2608272)

The racesuit wearer on the left is Colin Lees from N. Ireland I think.

Ryan Nugent · 6 Jan 2010, 14:52 (Ref:2608939)

Just like a few of you guys, I too was looking through some old photos and documentation over the Christmas break and I came across some of my Dad's old racing folders. So I though I would do a search and came up with this forum

I will speak with Mike (dad) over the next coming days and get the correct facts on the Chassis model and various other details, as from the various threads I have been reading this is causing some debate.

Would anyone have contact details or be able to point me in the direction of Jim Burnett, whom I understand still has the Argo.
I know Mike would certainly love to get in contact with him.
We still even have some spares in the garage for the Argo.

Ryan N

Dan Rear · 6 Jan 2010, 15:16 (Ref:2608942)

That'd be great Ryan, love to hear your Dad's views on the Argo, and Irish FAt in general.

Alan Brown · 8 Jan 2010, 11:36 (Ref:2609966)

In Mike Kettlewell’s Second Motor Racing Directory (1981) there is a short biography of Mike Nugent from which the following quote is taken. “An Argo JM3 was acquired for 1979, but it was not too successful until properly developed in time for the 1980 season in conjunction with Argo. Mike called his car a ‘JM8’ although this number is allocated to the 1981 Formula 3 model. He won the Irish Formula Atlantic Championship.” [9 wins, 2 seconds, 2 thirds racing that season on 3 circuits in Ireland and at Donington Park]

delta · 14 Jan 2010, 20:58 (Ref:2613531)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwblackwell

The blue #44 has an Anglia Cars Serial plate stamped JM8, now Argo did go on to build other JM8's very different from the #44 blue Atlantic. The tub of the blue Nugent car #44 has spars extending from the tub back along side the BDA. The red car the Rackham/Blackwell #36 JM5 has no spars just trailing links and the tub is wider than the top body work, both cars share the same F3 body work. As James has posted we also owned a JM9 Atlantic and a JM11 Atlantic and this past winter we resurected JM16 number 101 the GTP car from 1984 built for Don Bell and powered with a Buick V6. Oh and our god son is working on a JM14 FC car, and God only knows what serial number they gave it, no marks anywhere log book doesn't say just calls it a Argo JM14 year og mfg. 1984.

I own a JM14 which is a 1983 FF2000 The JM14B was a longer wheel base with different side pods.They were built and raced in 1984.Any chance of posting some pics of your God Sons car please.

Chris Townsend · 14 Jan 2010, 22:28 (Ref:2613581)

The JM14s weren't numbered in the same series as the rest of Argo chassis - I think because they were built by another company for Argo. So whereas the Argo numbers are sequential regardless of model, the JM14 is numbered within the model.

Thanks to Alan Brown making some chassis observations in 1982 and with some careful reading of the press I've been able to work out some of who used what chassis in 1982-84 and there were at least 6 JM14s built in 1982.

Chris

driftwood · 15 Jan 2010, 06:32 (Ref:2613694)

I recall anthony reid in argo FF2000 for john kirkpatrick racing
cant think who would have built the cars for argo
arch motors the chassis?

delta · 15 Jan 2010, 20:29 (Ref:2613948)

Thats interesting Chris.I know of 2 Jm14 mine and another on the hills somewhere. I was sure all the rest were JM14B's. Argo made some JM14B's for the states and were imported but named Royale's.

You know that story Kev

Chris Townsend · 15 Jan 2010, 20:45 (Ref:2613957)

Ian
We know that Mark Galvin had 14-03 in 1984 [tho that might be 14B-03]
Tony Reid noted with chassis number JM14-5 in 1982, this perhaps the ex Reid JM14 that went to Meurig Roberts in 1984
Neil Betteridge used chassis JM14-6, entered by HART, in 1982.

I suspect that the 14Bs were updates of existing chassis rather than completely new cars, so it might well be that yours is one of only two original spec cars.

BTW do you think we should do a Delta thread? - there are quite a few chassis out there and quite a few records for period chassis numbers

delta · 15 Jan 2010, 22:33 (Ref:2614003)

Thanks Chris ,Neil has been posting on our FF2000 site. Be great to get a full Delta register. I have some notes on cars and owners but most of the info is in my head.

driftwood · 15 Jan 2010, 22:51 (Ref:2614014)

Ian i do worry what is in your head !!
i nearly did mumble Alan Cornock as a possible builder fo cars a si know he did the reynard FFords post 84 but i thoght i would keep my gob shut in case i made an ass out of myself !

deltas
i will be seeing Nick crossley ( planned to do it yesterday) wil ask if he has kept records

I am reading 1978 autosports just read some bloke from Brum with avon tyre agency has just bought NEW delta for ff200 sereis and some bloke called mike white arrives from a former colony

Thundersports · 16 Jan 2010, 00:16 (Ref:2614052)

Nick Crossley; has he sold his Arrows A11?

delta · 16 Jan 2010, 09:10 (Ref:2614149)

Well if it was'nt you must of been Marcus Pye. World would be a poorer place Kev if you did'nt say anything

.FYI My blue and yellow Delta is the ex Mike White and i have sold Paul Smith's "BMTR" ex Delta to Japaneese driver who is going too run with us this year.

.Also we are sure that my JM14 is the car that Damon Hill drove at Brands in his first single seater race.

driftwood · 16 Jan 2010, 10:23 (Ref:2614162)

Damon Hill first race i was there having my 1st car race

A11 is coming to me soon just waiting for it to be assembled Deltas
what about the 81 Coyne car where did that go

delta · 16 Jan 2010, 12:01 (Ref:2614193)

So where did it all go wrong Kev

driftwood · 16 Jan 2010, 16:53 (Ref:2614304)

i had the wrong father and i blame my mother !

delta · 16 Jan 2010, 18:59 (Ref:2614352)

We had better get back to chassis discussion and carry on with this conversation on the "lighter side"

ben_h · 3 Feb 2010, 23:04 (Ref:2626003)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jleonard

The red car #1 is JM5-036 FA owned by James Blackwell ex Rackham. Blue car in background is JM8-044 FA owned by Jim Burnett ex Nugent. Photo was taken on June 12 1981 at Portland Intl. SCCA Rose cup races. Both cars still with same owners.

Looks good that helps alot the bodywork is off to the paint shop in the next week...

driftwood · 4 Feb 2010, 01:12 (Ref:2626061)

i need f3 rear argo 3 spoke dymag anyone have 1 or some for sale?

JagtechOhio · 4 Feb 2010, 01:50 (Ref:2626077)

Het drifty, maybe this guy is worth a try? If you ever need help with a U.S. deal, I'll help if I can. I don't have connections, but the offer is there just the same. Cheers.

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...39211350ss.htm

Andy

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