Future Grands Prix?

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

The basic concept of qualifying as it is, is good. Pointless changing it bar winning some short term publicity.

Basically, they are looking for cheap ways to 'jazz' up the sport without investment. I'm not sure it's that easy.

It detracts from the GP too in that it loses more of its prestige as a stand alone 'major' as implied by the term Grand Prix. If there's two races per weekend every non-winter weekend, it becomes less unique - if only in my eyes. And Eccelstone has been pushing to have the season crammed with as many races as he can.

And while I'd take all that if they went ahead with it. Reverse grids is just a bit too much of 'the circus' to inject into this sport for me to bear.

I would not like the idea of reversing grids either...

[bjohnsonsmith]

With regards to a sprint race, will the drivers/teams be racing their F1 cars, because the problem I see with a sprint race on Saturday is, what happens if there's a multiple car incident, for example at the start? Depending on how bad the damage is, the mechanics are going to have their work cut out repairing the cars for Sunday's GP.

In the event of accidents during a race weekend, teams already have to bring extra front wings etc., an additional race will mean they'll have to bring more spares, which will the cost teams as they are the ones that manufacture them. To add to that, a multiple car incident will lead to a full course yellow, for a number of laps, reducing further what will already be a reduced lap race.

If the sprint race is done with Renault Clios, then there's no problem except for potential driver injury.

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

With regards to a sprint race, will the drivers/teams be racing their F1 cars, because the problem I see with a sprint race on Saturday is, what happens if there's a multiple car incident, for example at the start? Depending on how bad the damage is, the mechanics are going to have their work cut out repairing the cars for Sunday's GP.

In the event of accidents during a race weekend, teams already have to bring extra front wings etc., an additional race will mean they'll have to bring more spares, which will the cost teams as they are the ones that manufacture them. To add to that, a multiple car incident will lead to a full course yellow, for a number of laps, reducing further what will already be a reduced lap race.

If the sprint race is done with Renault Clios, then there's no problem except for potential driver injury.

Well you make some good points there, car breakage would be an issue. I think what they are doing at the moment is brainstorming ideas which is a good thing isn't it ...

Basic ideas like wider cars, wider tyres, more engine noise, more down force Less driver aids .. make the cars ruder ...

Let's have more fun...Keep all the classic tracks and make it more affordable for the promoters..Make the whole kit and caboodle a more fan friendly experience..

Older people are always going to moan and groan no mater what you do, some people it's simply impossible to please

[Paradise City]

Well, a sprint race would likely be a fiasco on a genuinely wet track. Cars gingerly tip toeing around in Sunday-self-preservation mode yet still crashing.


And if they did a reverse grid thing with that, wow, it'd be carnage.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Vettel's against Saturday races for traditional reasons.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119840

[p-matt]

I really think a 1 hour race on Saturday afternoon based on the grid reversed from qualifying would be a great idea. Points would be based on the top 8 finishers using the pre-2010 points system (10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1). Championship contenders would actually have to overtake on track, which is a skill that isn't always tested of champions at present. More importantly, the cars would have to be engineered so they could some through the back rather than engineering a car that's quick in qualifying as we see now.

Purists will naturally have big issues with this. Although, think of the classic races we've had in the past where the quickest drivers are out of position. Imagine having that every weekend.

[Paradise City]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Vettel's against Saturday races for traditional reasons.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119840

I'm liking Vettel more and more.

Woah, is that a pig flyin' overhead!

[AoB Special Stage]

21 race calendar approved

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119935

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by AoB Special Stage

21 race calendar approved

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119935

So Bernie finally get's his 21 race season.

I see Germany's back on the list.

[chillibowl]

for sure glad Germany is back on there but seriously 21 races???

we have had a year and a half with no legitimate challenger to the top team and unless they open up the regs then we have 10 more races this year and another 21 next year of this???

i get that some engine manus got it horribly wrong but i dont see why we, the viewing public, have to suffer through another 31 races of this!

p.s. that also another 31 races of me complaining!

[S griffin]

And you have to ask how many of those races add anything to F1

[TheMightyM]

Originally Posted by S griffin

And you have to ask how many of those races add anything to F1

Oh they all add something where it matters most, which is Bernie’s bank account.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Does F1 really need 21 races? I thought 17 was a good number, enough races to keep drivers and teams busy and fans interested and a GP was something to look forward to.

21 just seems like overkill, a sausage machine, turning out boring races on featureless tracks, in countries with no motorsports heritage and who will never develop any grass roots motorsport.

Rant over.

[Richard C]

More races = More money for F1/FOM.



As a fan I think it somewhat dilutes the overall product by having so many. Each race becomes somewhat less special and it also lessens the impact of each on the season (from a points perspective) as well.

Richard

[Richard C]

I will say... that some new races are not bad. I have seen some of the simulations for the Mexican GP and that stadium section looks bonkers! I can't wait to watch that race and I think it would be a great race to watch in person.

They should focus on quality of the product and worry less about "more is better"

Richard

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

I will say... that some new races are not bad. I have seen some of the simulations for the Mexican GP and that stadium section looks bonkers! I can't wait to watch that race and I think it would be a great race to watch in person.

They should focus on quality of the product and worry less about "more is better"

Richard

Mexico's not a new venue. Though a non championship race, the first GP was in 1962, with a hiatus from 1971 to 1985 but I understand what you mean. The stadium section is bonkers. CART raced there in 2002.

You are right, they should focus on the quality of the product and worry less about "more is better" but with Bernie as King Pin, he calls the shots for the worse imho.

[AoB Special Stage]

I was thinking, and I realized the Yas race is the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. That naming is important. Abu Dhabi, not United Arab Emirates. By that reasoning, the union of the UAE is not that of a nation as far as F1 is concerned given their current hosting policy. This means Dubai could host a race (if not for Bahrain's contract), which I would like.

But this causes a precedent which could be viewed to mean that other federations (such as Russia, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Canada, and Belgium) could have different rounds in different states/provinces/divisions despite the (usually) standing one race per nation per year policy.

[chillibowl]

one race per country is not a rule.

New Jersey (USA) is looking (dreaming) about getting on the calander with Austin, Spain had two for a number of seasons, as did Germany before they started to alternate years, and in Japan one of my favorite (looking) tracks of all time was Aida International which in 95? was even held back to back with Suzuka.

im sure there are a few more examples as well.

[S griffin]

Of course, who can forget the infamous Luxembourg GP!

[AoB Special Stage]

Port Imperial is a pipe dream. Excluding Valencia, they tend to stick with one race/country nowadays. As comedic as the San Marino, Luxembourg, and all the directions on the compass U.S. races were, they just aren't happening anymore.

I seem to remember the USGP organizers got penalized somehow for the sheer number of rounds that were being crammed onto the calendar in the U.S.

[AoB Special Stage]

http://apexcircuitdesign.co.uk/portf...treet-circuit/

Those requests aren't made on a whim.

[bjohnsonsmith]

I thought next year's GP at Baku was a done deal but apparently not, as the venue waits for circuit approval from the FIA.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120210

[bella]

isn't this the approval that generally happens much later on in the build process, or is there more than one homologation stage?

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Erm, how long before the inaugural Korean GP was the Yeongam circuit approved???!!!

Baku is going ahead. Surely the most likely prevention would be if Azerbaijan politically implodes...

[AoB Special Stage]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Erm, how long before the inaugural Korean GP was the Yeongam circuit approved???!!!

Baku is going ahead. Surely the most likely prevention would be if Azerbaijan politically implodes...

Well. . .