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14 Nov 2010, 15:38 (Ref:2790265)
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Alonso's fist
While I was enjoying Seb's win, I saw a replay of Alonso shaking his fist at Petrov. This action deeply intensifies my dislike for him. Seeing Alonso being consoled by his trainer (whom I also don't care for many reasons) was good on him.
Does anyone really think that Petrov should have let him through????? I thought Petrov did an amazing job holding Alonso at bay.....he was very solid to say the least. For Alonso to expect Petrov to move over makes me believe that he thinks he owns the track. Sorry Alonso, every dog has his day. |
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14 Nov 2010, 15:42 (Ref:2790271)
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Alonso is a great driver but he comes across as though he's entitled.
Not good sportsmanship. Ferrari blew his race and it was up to him to get by. At the end of the day he couldn't. |
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14 Nov 2010, 15:42 (Ref:2790272)
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He made a bit of a fool of himself doing that to Petrov. Maybe when he's calmed down he'll apologise to him. Alonso just seems like a really emotional man.
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14 Nov 2010, 15:43 (Ref:2790276)
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The guy's competitive and has a latin temper. He was alone in his car and had to deal with his frustration. He was not mad anymore 10 mins later in the post-race interview. There's not much there to ***** about here; let's congratulate the winner instead
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14 Nov 2010, 15:45 (Ref:2790278)
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Unsportsmanlike at the time, but after he calmed down he praised Petrov's drive. So: poor form but no big deal. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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14 Nov 2010, 15:46 (Ref:2790281)
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I think the problem is most people expect the drivers to behave like robots when they are actually human beings. Can anyone imagine how they themselves would react after they lost a world title having been held up for 40 laps but a Renault. |
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14 Nov 2010, 15:48 (Ref:2790283)
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Yeah, if he's gone on to praise Petrov's drive then good on him. We all lose our rag sometimes in the heat of the moment and then feel bad about it when the dust settles.
He's human. |
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14 Nov 2010, 15:49 (Ref:2790287)
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Okay, I don't get to see post race interviews other than the top three guys. Regardless, it was up to Alonso to pass and he didn't. He should have been angry at himself at the time.
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14 Nov 2010, 15:51 (Ref:2790293)
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Oh yeah, now we're going to forgive him because he's latin and has a "latin temper"... this is BS ! What else do wee need to know to udnerstand and realise about the true man he is ?
He's a great driver yes, but that doesn't add to his true character ! Latin temper has nothing to do with this... this is just legend. There are no excuses for that, and all the things he's done in the past. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:00 (Ref:2790304)
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Who cares?
It's not like he shot the Pope or something |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:06 (Ref:2790314)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:08 (Ref:2790316)
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I can't say I was impressed, but I wasn't surprised - and he's not the first "top driver" I've seen over the years who seems to believe they have an automatic right to get past other drivers, even though the driver in front is legitimately defending their position.
It's inevitable that we'll see "unsportsmanlike behaviour" from time to time when emotions are so high. It doesn't justify it, but it is understandable. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:15 (Ref:2790326)
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Seems like he was just frustrated at the time, but no need for it. Petrov drove very well and was more than fair.
Excellent driver but let himself down at times with his attitude which does go towards people having a dislike for him. No doubt he will win another championship before he retires. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:37 (Ref:2790352)
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Not good sportsmanship, but not terrible either. It's very understandable to be angry in the moment, considering the circumstances. I probably would have scrapped the car or gave myself a stroke after about 3 laps behind Petrov. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:41 (Ref:2790356)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:45 (Ref:2790362)
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Shoulda put the nose to Petrov into one of the braking zones and walled him. :P
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14 Nov 2010, 16:47 (Ref:2790370)
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The more I see of Alonso's temperament the more he reminds me of Senna.
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14 Nov 2010, 16:48 (Ref:2790371)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:52 (Ref:2790375)
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14 Nov 2010, 16:57 (Ref:2790380)
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Although we can blame the team for a poor decision strategically, this fight served to remind us all that the race result is ultimately decided by the drivers on the track. Nobody else at Ferrari but Alonso could have overtaken Petrov today. And Petrov, perhaps just in the nick of time, performed incredibly well, not even flinching when Alonso made a scrappy move in vain.
The gesture was unsporting of Alonso but, as suggested by his reaction, Petrov knows it's not his fault. |
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14 Nov 2010, 16:59 (Ref:2790383)
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Really poor form by a complete loser. Hot-headedness I understand after something like a crash, but after failing to get past that Renault?
Alonso's shown he is a ****** after years and years and he's just demonstrated this again. I am delighted he lost. |
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14 Nov 2010, 17:05 (Ref:2790388)
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So you don't like him then?
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14 Nov 2010, 17:19 (Ref:2790404)
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Nah.
I was actually a fan of his until mid-2007 when he showed his character. I was beginning to like him again until almost the mid-point of this season. |
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14 Nov 2010, 17:23 (Ref:2790409)
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I'd almost be dissapointed if he didn't show some emotion.
He's been on a good roll recently, and his worst result comes when it really mattered for him to get a good one. So I can entirely understand why he was feeling that way. |
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14 Nov 2010, 18:11 (Ref:2790446)
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Even when praising Petrov he still said - "I tried to pass him once and he protected like it was the last lap, in the last race in the championship, fighting both for the championship, so he was very aggressive."
Not how I saw it. Alonso made one desperate move, got nowhere near Petrov and sailed off track. Anyhoo. I don't like him. But I'm prepared to say his fist gestures were just the result of complete frustration and emotion. Yes there are wider issues with attitude etc, but hey, at least it keeps it exciting. And, I'm not immune to these feelings. Because I freely admit to all and sundry at collapsing in hysterics and making my own 'wavy-fist' motion at the telly when I saw Alonso doing it. Accompanied by singing, 'bye, bye, byyyyyeeee, Fernando (you know you shoulda 'ad yer wheatabix)'. Hardly a sporting response at all. But very good fun! Ahhh...! |
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