The Goodwood Revival 2007 - Page 14

**John Turner** · 5 Nov 2007, 13:10 (Ref:2060142)

I'll have to check, Terence. I will start a WHT thread eventually, unless someone would like to start one now and get the discussion going.

zefarelly · 5 Nov 2007, 13:30 (Ref:2060163)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Jo.....Did he accept?

only that he was a bit slow in replying

terence · 5 Nov 2007, 14:00 (Ref:2060198)

Just as well he's not that slow with that other wellknown establishment Zef

zefarelly · 5 Nov 2007, 14:17 (Ref:2060271)

exactly, I'd imagine his PA sorts incoming, he deals with the proper stuff and the shredder passed mine to the worms to deal with hence the delay in digestion and response

MartinSmith · 5 Nov 2007, 15:08 (Ref:2060309)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

Did you happen to get any of the eraticaly driven Black BMW on Saturday at WHT.?

Terence! you didnt complain when I took you round in it! and I dont drive bad...do I?... now dont hi jack this thread...lol

John...Pic's are great ...on with the show!

GBRM · 5 Nov 2007, 15:13 (Ref:2060313)

Out of interest, did they only start using the chicane before the start/finish straight when Goodwood re-opened or was it used back in the day? I know it used to be more temporary then it is now but I wondered if was temporary in the 50s/60s or not used at all.

**John Turner** · 5 Nov 2007, 15:32 (Ref:2060326)

Gregor, the chicane has pretty much been a feature from the very early days. I think that it used to be rather more solidly constructed than now, though, albeit of a construction that made it relatively easy to rebuild!

**John Turner** · 5 Nov 2007, 15:34 (Ref:2060327)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Terence! you didnt complain when I took you round in it! and I dont drive bad...do I?... now dont hi jack this thread...lol

I fell into that one didn't I. I thought he was talking about a competition car and I was wracking my brains trying to remember it! Doh!

terence · 5 Nov 2007, 15:34 (Ref:2060328)

Ohh Gregor,have you not been looking at the pictures of the likes of The Nine Hour's in the older publication's? Tut,Tut.

GBRM · 5 Nov 2007, 15:45 (Ref:2060336)

I was watching some videos last night of Dad and Roy Salvadori in the Aston Martin DBR4 and DB3 from '79/'80 and they didn't use the chicane and I got the impression that had been the same when Roy won at Goodwood.

Also, when Dad used to test the Lola, Lister and other Astons at Goodwood in the '70s & '80s they rarely used the chicane so I wondered if it was raced without in period.

terence · 5 Nov 2007, 15:56 (Ref:2060345)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Terence! you didnt complain when I took you round in it! and I dont drive bad...do I?... now dont hi jack this thread...lol

John...Pic's are great ...on with the show!

I wasn't able to speak!!

Gregor,I have a video somewhere of Roy in an Aston,some fabulous footage of him using all of the exit of the chicane,It did remind me of some one else's driving style though!!

MartinSmith · 5 Nov 2007, 18:40 (Ref:2060475)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Turner

I fell into that one didn't I. I thought he was talking about a competition car and I was wracking my brains trying to remember it! Doh!

Dont worry John....I thought he was a nice chap when I met him...we all make mistakes

Only kidding

terence · 5 Nov 2007, 20:05 (Ref:2060540)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaireSmith

Dont worry John....I thought he was a nice chap when I met him...we all make mistakes

Only kidding

Touche!

**John Turner** · 6 Nov 2007, 09:30 (Ref:2060932)

A 15 lap race for World Championship sports cars and production sports-racing cars of a type that raced between 1955-1960. These cars run the GT cars very close in my favourite stakes and the racing is often better. It certainly was this year, and it occurs to me that maybe, every now and then, they should swap the races around and make the hour long TT race for these cars. It would be perfectly valid and driver changes would be a far greater spectacle to the spectators in the Grandstands.

A great qualifying lap by Tiff Needell in the ex Belgian racing Lister Jaguar put him on pole and I'd guess that was a surprise to many. However, as an Aston fan, and after Jean Marc Gounon's great run from the back last year in Anthony Bamford's DBR2, I was looking to him to uphold Feltham honours this year with the ever spectacular Peter Hardman in the DBR1 in with a good shout if the bigger engined car failed. It was Gounon who jumped straight into the lead from the start, followed by Needell and Hardman:-

I've been watching Mike Salmon race, of and on, for 40 years, and here he is again, this time in D-type. He finished 18th:-

Mark Gillies (Maserati 300S) gets a run on Tony Bianchi (Allard-Ferrellac -13th) and goes on to finish 11th. However, Stephen Gibson was to pass them both and finish 9th in the Lister Jaguar:-

It may be my imagination, but Ron Gammons doesn't really look as though he is enjoying himself in Devin-Chevrolet SS. He finished16th:-

Up at the front, Hardman passed Needell to make it an Aston 1-2. Tiff then had a gearbox problem and retired the Lister. You can see the effort Hardman is putting in through St Mary's in his attempts to get on terms with the bigger Aston, but Gounon continued to edge away. Peter was unable to secure 2nd place when the car slowed and he was obliged retire. Gounon had an untroubled run to win by 7 seconds from the extremely well driven Lister Chevrolet of Stuart Graham. A further 10 seconds back, Julian Mazjub brought the ever improving Sadler-Chevrolet Mk3 into 3rd:-

Alan Minshaw, the only man who has fairly regularly raced a Birdcage Maserati in recent years (thank you, Alan!) brought the Tipo 61 into 8th place:-

johnh875 · 8 Nov 2007, 10:05 (Ref:2062823)

Thanks for the report John, fantastic as always! And featuring one of my favourite Ferraris, the 330LMB.

terence · 8 Nov 2007, 10:51 (Ref:2062858)

It may be my imagination, but Ron Gammons doesn't really look as though he is enjoying himself in Devin-Chevrolet SS. He finished16th:-

Nothing new there then!

Fantastic shot's and report John.I almost wish I'd gone now!

**John Turner** · 9 Nov 2007, 12:38 (Ref:2063706)

A 16 lap race for 1.5 litre GP and Tasman cars of a type race between 1961 and 1965. With 3 cars all in the 1.25 bracket this was set to be a close race for the final event of the meeting. Unfortunately, one of them, Martin Stretton was in hospital by then, so it was down to Frank Sytner and Barry Williams to entertain at the front, and this they did. Whizzo then spun at Woodcote and how Frank Sytner lost this race I'll never understand! Clearly he backed his pace off and with 'Whizzo' that's a mistake, but even so Sytner seemed slow to realise the threat which again started to loom large behind him. Whizzo made his move two laps from the end and whilst Frank responded with fastest lap, he was unable to get the lead back, being just 0.147 shy at the flag. In a nice touch Whizzo dedicated his win to Martin Stretton at a time, of course, when we really didn't know the extent of Martin's injuries:-

A new one on me was the Heron-Alfa Romeo of Eddy Perk who finished 12th:-

And another was the Derrington Francis-ATS (where have I been all these years?) of Philip Walker who finished 8th. Behind is Dan Collins who took 11th in Lotus 21:-

According to the programme and the results sheets, this is Ed Masson, but you couldn't mistake that helmet anywhere. It has to be John Monson (unless he lent his helmet out!) and John, I would be grateful if you could remind us how you came to be in the car because I've forgotten. Sadly the car, an Anglo American Cooper Climax, DNF'd.:-

Richard Weiland finished 16th and last of the classified runners in his Lotus Climax 24:-

Rob Hall in a BRM engined version of the 24 was a lonely 3rd:-

**John Turner** · 10 Nov 2007, 12:07 (Ref:2064266)

Final comments from me. It was another great event although I really get irritated by the journalistic cliche that 'this event just gets better every year'; it doesn't. How can it, when it started 10 years ago from such a highpoint in the first place? In any event, this year it was marred for me by a number of issues that we have already touched upon. It is however still a very special event, particularly for spectators. Clearly some grass roots drivers and some owners take a different view as other threads on this forum witness, but there are others who would be delighted to get an invitation. Horses for courses.

It remains for me to say 'Chocks away, cheerio chaps':-

johngee · 10 Nov 2007, 12:09 (Ref:2064267)

Great reports, comments and photos John. Thank you......and can see where Kevin gets his 'jounalistic' skills from

MartinSmith · 10 Nov 2007, 13:07 (Ref:2064285)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Turner

It remains for me to say 'Chocks away, cheerio chaps':-

Well Done John excellent stuff

terence · 10 Nov 2007, 13:10 (Ref:2064287)

Hope it's not Cheerio John,Fabulous Shot's and Report,s.Thank You.

johngee · 10 Nov 2007, 13:16 (Ref:2064294)

It won't be Cheerio Terry. It needs somebody to keep us in order on here

Surprised that I didn't see you at the Classic Car Show yesterday - it was full of people from 'our' generation saying "I used to have one of those"

terence · 10 Nov 2007, 15:38 (Ref:2064396)

US!?? I thought it was just Esper and me.

I was extremely busy yesterday John[That was so strange,I made the most of it] Flying about all over the place and getting no-where.A bit like one of you'r day's in the office really.!

I could say "I had one of those" and,I used to work on those when they were new.LOL.

zefarelly · 10 Nov 2007, 20:45 (Ref:2064630)

[QUOTE=johngee]It won't be Cheerio Terry. It needs somebody to keep us in order on here QUOTE]

and he's busy enough keeping me in line

Quote:

Originally Posted by johngee

it was full of people from 'our' generation saying "I used to have one of those"

I was going, but didn't, as I've still got one, well four actually, hence not having the time to go

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