[iV8SC12R14&15] Sucrogen Townsville 400, 6-8 July - Page 5

bluesport · 9 Jul 2012, 08:30 (Ref:3104057)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pascofi m-sport

FAS33, you do have a point...

but what i'm talking about is variety in leaders / winners of races...atm it's the same 4 drivers (#1, #5, #6, #888) leading or winning races while the rest of the field may challenge from time-to-time.

i know WTCC and BTCC have this...but how about weight penalties (just as a suggestion), for the top three in each race (if you don't place in the top three in the next race then you lose the weight), the only time that there will be no weight penalties in play will be at the enduros.

just some food for thought, to garner more winners and spice up the racing...

Rolex sports cars have parity adjustments too and it seems to work for them.

tbz · 9 Jul 2012, 14:55 (Ref:3104229)

Does anyone know, why Christian Klien didn't raced?

Umai Naa · 9 Jul 2012, 22:09 (Ref:3104373)

He ran in the first two practice sessions for co-drivers.

He's not scheduled to race until Sandown and Bathurst, later in the year.

Go Harder. · 10 Jul 2012, 02:53 (Ref:3104432)

Any idea why JV earned -1 point for his 24th placing in Sundays race? And does his running in Townsville (and possibly Ipswich) mean he's ineligible for the GC600?

ForumNick · 10 Jul 2012, 04:37 (Ref:3104441)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedcafe

...no breach of Supplementary Regulation 2.9 regarding ‘Wheels Spinning’ was found, given the rule 2.9.1 which states: “During any Pit Stop, immediately prior to the Car being lowered from its air jacks, it is not permitted to have the clutch engaged to cause the rear wheels to rotate.”

Damien White, V8 Supercars Sporting and Technical Manager, told BigPond Sport that it was determined that the air jack had been released prior to the wheels beginning to spin.

“The requirement of the rule is ‘immediately prior to the car being lowered’ and after investigation it was determined the wheels started spinning immediately as the air spike was removed; in other words the lowering of the car had begun,” he told BigPond Sport.

Gee it seemed to take 'forever' for the air to bleed out then !!!

Full Article here

ForumNick · 10 Jul 2012, 04:43 (Ref:3104442)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Harder.

Any idea why JV earned -1 point for his 24th placing in Sundays race? And does his running in Townsville (and possibly Ipswich) mean he's ineligible for the GC600?

Where did you see he got any points? I can't find anything showing he got any (Nothing showing on Natsoft or V8SC Points Table)

sizzle · 10 Jul 2012, 05:20 (Ref:3104447)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForumNick

Where did you see he got any points? I can't find anything showing he got any (Nothing showing on Natsoft or V8SC Points Table)

The official results from V8 site has him finishing 24th scoring -1 point.

Going by the points from the same site apparently he doesn't even exist as a driver!

Umai Naa · 10 Jul 2012, 05:48 (Ref:3104456)

I was wondering that myself.

Is there some hidden rule that perhaps Mr Morris could elude us to, that prevents Mr Villeneuve from scoring points?

Go Harder. · 10 Jul 2012, 06:42 (Ref:3104469)

He also scored -1 for his DNF on Saturday.... WTF?

STEALTHY · 10 Jul 2012, 07:04 (Ref:3104480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pascofi m-sport

FAS33, you do have a point...

but what i'm talking about is variety in leaders / winners of races...atm it's the same 4 drivers (#1, #5, #6, #888) leading or winning races while the rest of the field may challenge from time-to-time.

i know WTCC and BTCC have this...but how about weight penalties (just as a suggestion), for the top three in each race (if you don't place in the top three in the next race then you lose the weight), the only time that there will be no weight penalties in play will be at the enduros.

just some food for thought, to garner more winners and spice up the racing...

Motorracing is, and has always been about the best team and the best driver winning.

If you're into penalising teams for being the best, please leave now and watch lawn bowls or something!

bluesport · 10 Jul 2012, 07:42 (Ref:3104485)

Murphy said. "team vodafone's success is boring and damaging to the sport".

Reload · 10 Jul 2012, 08:03 (Ref:3104491)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesport

Murphy said. "team vodafone's success is boring and damaging to the sport".

And if you asked Murphy if he wanted to
drive for 888 next year,i wonder what he
would say ?
HRT,KR,SBR,DJR and GRM have a lot to
answer for as far as 888 and FPR turning
things into a 2 horse race.

peckstar · 10 Jul 2012, 08:12 (Ref:3104492)

Didnt Murphy say that last year?

and this year FPR are beating them in the teams championship so it must no longer be boring

pascofi m-sport · 10 Jul 2012, 08:17 (Ref:3104495)

from what i learned the only thing you get from looking back is a stiff neck, so i think we cease the arguments about what happened in Townsville and move on to the paperclip.

At least the racing there will be a bit more unpredictable (!)

bluesport · 10 Jul 2012, 09:22 (Ref:3104510)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reload

And if you asked Murphy if he wanted to
drive for 888 next year,i wonder what he
would say ?
HRT,KR,SBR,DJR and GRM have a lot to
answer for as far as 888 and FPR turning
things into a 2 horse race.

Lol.......Mr Serious.

FAS33 · 10 Jul 2012, 19:47 (Ref:3104788)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesport

Murphy said. "team vodafone's success is boring and damaging to the sport".

Murphys whinging is damaging to the sport... he is by far the biggest moaner in motorsport (behind Casey Stoner) , no wonder nobody likes the guy.

deeks6 · 10 Jul 2012, 22:04 (Ref:3104866)

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Motorracing is, and has always been about the best team and the best driver winning.

If you're into penalising teams for being the best, please leave now and watch lawn bowls or something!

AMEN!

And, please, does anybody seriously think that Jamie would not still be winning if was in an FPR, Stones, HRT, DJR, Walkinshaw or Jones car? He is up there with Johnson, Brock, Moffat, Geoghegan, Skaife for mine and may well be the greatest by the time he hangs up the Helmet.

bluesport · 11 Jul 2012, 04:12 (Ref:3104930)

No, Murph's right, it's boring.

FordCosworthPanoz · 11 Jul 2012, 05:37 (Ref:3104933)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAS33

Murphys whinging is damaging to the sport... he is by far the biggest moaner in motorsport (behind Casey Stoner) , no wonder nobody likes the guy.

Yep, because the great Jamie Whincup has never moaned and complained, and I'm sure you all know how great of a loser Roland Dane is.

FordCosworthPanoz · 11 Jul 2012, 05:37 (Ref:3104934)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deeks6

AMEN!

And, please, does anybody seriously think that Jamie would not still be winning if was in an FPR, Stones, HRT, DJR, Walkinshaw or Jones car? He is up there with Johnson, Brock, Moffat, Geoghegan, Skaife for mine and may well be the greatest by the time he hangs up the Helmet.

No.

Umai Naa · 11 Jul 2012, 05:38 (Ref:3104935)

I think the tyre compound and pit stop regulations make it boring.

They need to somehow gear it so that there's no definitive strategy. Maybe just give the cars 6 soft tyres that they can use at any time over racing and qualifying. 6 tyres - that's it. You can use them whenever you like. The way the races are formatted (with their individual qualifying sessions), there's no incentive to save them up for any particular time. Some teams might use them in quali to get a good grid spot, while others might save them for the race, so as to charge through the pack.

FAS33 · 11 Jul 2012, 05:39 (Ref:3104936)

Moto GP, F1 , DTM, LMS , GT , V8 Supercars, RWC , NASCAR (mostly) are boring at times, but do people still watch it? I think the ones whining and moaning about the sport just can't hack it their not good enough. and according to murph "it's damaging"? lol how about win some races mate, I doubt he'd be saying that if he were on the podium.

Marcos WTF · 11 Jul 2012, 06:52 (Ref:3104952)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForumNick

Gee it seemed to take 'forever' for the air to bleed out then !!!

Full Article here

Thanks, Nick for the link.

ForumNick · 26 Jul 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3111519)

This from the 'further' Supp Regs for Coates Hire 300

WHEELS SPINNING
Delete Supplementary Regulation 2.9.1 and replace with the following:
During any Pit Stop, from the time the Car leaves the ground until it returns to the ground, it is not permitted to have the clutch engaged to cause the rear wheels to rotate unless prior approval is given by the CTM.
In any case where the CTM grants approval the wheels must stop rotating prior to the Car being returned to the ground, and they must not be rotating as the Car returns to the ground.

peckstar · 26 Jul 2012, 10:55 (Ref:3111584)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForumNick

This from the 'further' Supp Regs for Coates Hire 300

WHEELS SPINNING
Delete Supplementary Regulation 2.9.1 and replace with the following:
During any Pit Stop, from the time the Car leaves the ground until it returns to the ground, it is not permitted to have the clutch engaged to cause the rear wheels to rotate unless prior approval is given by the CTM.
In any case where the CTM grants approval the wheels must stop rotating prior to the Car being returned to the ground, and they must not be rotating as the Car returns to the ground.

some more detail

I think this is good, as long as we don't have to go to the slomo to make the call

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