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Old 3 Aug 2017, 11:45 (Ref:3757188)   #76
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Just as long as they aren't as ugly as the current cars.
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Are they going to use Argentinian-made chassis or is this another offshot of the Howe TA2-cars?
There is not much information about the new car.
I suppose they used the same principle as the old cars.
Today's cars have Spec Tubular Chassis built in Argentine, with the same V6 3.5 engine and different bodies that copy the models of the marks.
This is the current Toyota Camry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW4UEmkB78A


Here are the renders of the new cars. They look more extreme than now.
http://www.campeones.com.ar/0/nota/index.vnc?id=52914

Lexus RCF:
http://www.campeones.com.ar/files/im...g?d=1501769428
Ford Mustang:
http://www.campeones.com.ar/files/im...g?d=1501769389
Chevy Camaro:
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is there no Mercedes?
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Old 3 Aug 2017, 21:54 (Ref:3757264)   #79
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is there no Mercedes?
Let's hope not, cos the current one is hideous.
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Let's hope not, cos the current one is hideous.
That Mercedes is not of the main category. That Mercedes race in Top Race Series, which is the second category, such as Formula 2 for Formula 1 or Indy Light for Indy Cars.

This is the Mercedes of the Top Race V6
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Old 4 Aug 2017, 14:27 (Ref:3757375)   #81
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Those aren't any better looking
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Well, as far as Silhouettes go, I don't think they are absolutely terrible... kinda on the level of the BMWs from Dutch Supercars.... which is a lot better than the non-Mustang/Camaro iterations of the Howe TA2 car (from Denmark or Costa Rica) or the Midjets.

Kinda makes you appreciate the Grand Am Prep2 cars as well - for tubeframers, the Mazdas and Pontiacs really came quite close to the real thing!

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I not really understand why Top Race exists. Or at least not understand why for example Toyota is running official cars.
With TN, STC2000, TC2000 and TC there's plenty of good racing series already.
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Top Race was created as part of a war between the Automóvil Club Argentino and the ACTC (Turismo Carretera Races Association).
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2017 TUrismo Carretera 1000 km Buenos Aires - preliminary results:

1. Juan Manuel "Pato" Silva / Juan Catalán Magni (Ford), 5:30'54
2. Guillermo Ortelli / Diego Mart*nez / Valent*n Aguirre (Chevrolet), +0.5
3. José Manuel Urcera / Mariano Altuna (Chevrolet), +33.9
4. Facundo Ardusso / Tomás Urretavizcaya (Torino), +1'14.7
5. Esteban Gini / Jonathan Vázquez (Chevrolet), +1'34.1

Silva's average speed was 183 km/h.

Fast lap by Mariano Werner was 1'36.2 (211 km/h)
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Juan Catalán Magni, son of Top Race runner-up Julio Catalán Magni, is just 18 years old. He debuted in TC Pista only this year.
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2017 TUrismo Carretera 1000 km Buenos Aires - preliminary results:

1. Juan Manuel "Pato" Silva / Juan Catalán Magni (Ford), 5:30'54
2. Guillermo Ortelli / Diego Mart*nez / Valent*n Aguirre (Chevrolet), +0.5
3. José Manuel Urcera / Mariano Altuna (Chevrolet), +33.9
4. Facundo Ardusso / Tomás Urretavizcaya (Torino), +1'14.7
5. Esteban Gini / Jonathan Vázquez (Chevrolet), +1'34.1

Silva's average speed was 183 km/h.

Fast lap by Mariano Werner was 1'36.2 (211 km/h)
Drama at the end.

Because I don't speak Spanish it was not easy to follow everything but I enjoyed the racing.
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Turismo Nacional - La Pampa round 8

1. Leonel Pern*a (Honda)
2. Leonel Larrauri (Honda)
3. Jerónomo Teti (Chevrolet)
4. Mariano Werner (Fiat)
5. Julián Santero (Ford)
6. Alfonso Domenech (Citroën)
7. Carlos Okulovich (Ford)
8. Nicolás Posco (Ford)
9. Emanuel Moriatis (Ford)
10. Jonatan Castellano (Chevrolet)

Turismo Nacional - standings after round 8:

1. Emanuel Moriatis (Ford), 184
2. Jonatan Castellano (Chevrolet), 174
3. Mariano Werner (Fiat), 172
4. Leonel Larrauri (Honda), 166
5. Luciano Ventricelli (VW), 121
6. Carlos Okulovich (Ford), 108
7. Fabián Yannantuoni (Peugeot), 108
7. Leonel Pern*a (Honda), 106
9. Julián Santero (Ford), 95
10. Hanna Abdallah (Ford), 92
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Top Race - Rosario round 8

1. Mariano Altuna (Chevrolet)
2. Agust*n Canapino (Mercedes-Benz)
3. Franco Girolami (Mitsubishi)
4. Valent*n Aguirre (Chevrolet)
5. Humberto Krujoski (Chevrolet)
6. Johnnito de Benedictis (Fiat)
7. Juan Manuel "Pato" Silva (Mercedes-Benz)
8. Gabriel Ponce de León (Toyota)
9. Lucas Valle (Mercedes-Benz)
10. Gustavo Tadei (Mercedes-Benz)

It was a 60 minute race. I saw a bit, it was entertaining.

Top Race - standings after round 8

1. Mariano Altuna (Chevrolet), 128
2. Gabriel Ponce de León (Toyota), 129
3. Agust*n Canapino (Mercedes-Benz), 112
4. Mat*as Rossi (Toyota), 83
5. Ricardo Risatti (Mercedes-Benz), 82
6. Humberto Krujoski (Chevrolet), 75
7. Franco Girolami (Mitsubishi), 62
8. Mauro Giallombardo (Ford), 56
9. Mat*as Rodr*guez (Mitsubishi), 49
10. Diego Azar (Mercedes-Benz), 28
11. Gustavo Tadei (Mercedes-Benz), 27
12. Johnnito de Benedictis (Fiat), 22
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This weekend, the Super TC2000 visits the Santa Fe street race. The track layout has been modified in the second sector.

As usual, there's a Saturday night race at 20:00, and a Sunday afternoon race at 12:00, both with a duration of 80 km or 45 minutes.
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Next weekend, the Turismo Carretera visits Concordia, just across the Uruguayan town of Salto.
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This weekend, the Super TC2000 visits the Santa Fe street race. The track layout has been modified in the second sector.

As usual, there's a Saturday night race at 20:00, and a Sunday afternoon race at 12:00, both with a duration of 80 km or 45 minutes.
Any pictures of what was changed?
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Great battle between Canapino and Rossi in race 2, both very unlucky. Maybe Ardusso has a chance to win the title now.
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Apparently the Santa Fe track layout changed very little, except the last corner, main straight and pitlane.
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The Super TC2000 will do the traditional Buenos Aires 200 km on October 1st.

The 30 entries include STC 2000 veterans José Mar*a López, Norberto Fontana, Christian Ledesma, Juan Manuel Silva, Mariano Altuna and Ricardo Risatti, plus Top Race star Rafael Morgenstern.

Also, Brazilian legends Carlos “Cacá” Bueno and Valdeno Brito are back.
Mexican veteran Ricardo Pérez de Lara will be guest as well.
Last but not least, Uruguayan star Santiago Urrutia will make his tin-top debut.

Renault Ambroggio

Leonel Pern*a / Julián Santero
Facundo Ardusso / Ricardo Risatti
Ignacio Julián / Manuel Luque

Renault Sportteam

Emiliano Spataro / Christian Ledesma
Luis José di Palma / Valdeno Brito

Chevrolet

Agust*n Canapino / Franco Vivian
Manuel Mallo / Mat*as Russo
Facundo Conta / Jonatan Castellano
Bernardo Llaver / Santiago Urrutia

Toyota

Mat*as Rossi / José Mar*a López
Gabriel Ponce de León / Norberto Fontana
Mat*as Milla / Rafael Morgenstern
Bruno Etman / José Montalto

Fiat

Carlos Javier Merlo / Ricardo Pérez de Lara
Emmanuel Cáceres / Fabricio Pezzini

Citroën

Esteban Guerrieri / Marcelo Ciarrocchi
José Manuel Urcera / Cacá Bueno
Mart*n Moggia / Humberto Krujoski

Peugeot

Fabián Yannantuoni / Carlos Okulovich
Mariano Werner / Mariano Altuna
Mat*as Muñoz Marchesi / Mat*as Rodr*guez
Facundo Chapur / Franco Girolami

Escuder*a FE (Peugeot)

Mart*n Ponte / Mariano Pernia
Antonino Garc*a / Bruno Armellini
Alessandro Salerno / Gonzalo Fernández

Fela (Ford)

Damián Fineschi / Juan Manuel Silva
Luciano Farroni / Camilo Echevarria
Juan Ángel Rosso / Sebastián Peluso

Riva (Ford)

Franco Riva / Gabriel Gandulia

JM (Chevrolet)

Javier Manta / Franco Coscia
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If you don't like it don't watch and follow it...
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