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Old 11 Sep 2017, 11:38 (Ref:3766024)   #31
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1) cheating pleb

2) You forgot the ever present AstroTurf strip.
1) yes, I am. I don't like that and Abu Dhabi because they're too cut-able

2) Astroturf and concrete are mostly used next to a kerb and not as runoff.
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Old 23 Sep 2017, 23:01 (Ref:3769480)   #32
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Hungaroring and Macau are racers tracks, not spectators tracks.
Having been to Hungaroring once in the 90s as a spectator, I must disagree. From my seat near the top of the main grandstand opposite of the beginning of the pit building, I could see most of the circuit. However, the parts that were missing from view include the track's main overtaking zone in Turn 1 which was too far away down the front straight. But I was amazed that, in the distance, I could see the chicane over the top of the pit building, and long right-hander that comes before it, too.

In the beginning, I used to design my tracks with inspiration from real circuits in mind and tried to emulate the feel of those, such as 80s Silverstone and Monza. Later, I developed a liking for designing conceptual circuits, and part of that is the credo that a racetrack should not have "a bit of everything" to make it unique. For example, at one point, I tried to design the perfect "Mickey Mouse Course". In the mid-90s, I upgraded most of my older tracks with chicanes or added additional loops to make them safer, sometimes changing the character of a circuit. When I came here, my focus first turned to designing circuits from a car setup perspective, so different parts of a track would require setup compromises to be fast over a complete lap. Later, my attention shifted towards natural shapes as souces for track design which culminated in the observation that most of John Hugenholtz's tracks resemble pieces of ginger. ;-)

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Thinking of fans doesn't necessarily mean stadium-like twisty sections.

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However, Hockenheim's Motodrom is an extremely boring section. Cars can barely overtake there. Fan friendly sections doesn't mean just having grandstands with view to the track, but putting grandstands close to action.
Motodrom is boring now but when Hockenheim still had its long straights, cars were a handful in the twisty Motodrom as they had to go through the hairpins on a low downforce setup that accomodated the straights perfectly but not that slow section. So you could see the drivers' skills up close. Now, no more, as the circuit allows for a boring high downforce setup since the early 2000s.
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 10:03 (Ref:3772028)   #34
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yeah, learning how a certain set up can effect a car or bike can change how some people design, like putting in a long straight and a set of open curves as a basic example.

and also what type of racing you are aiming for can also effect the shape in my opinion. because there are so many disciplines that have different ways of getting speed.

if you were to race prototypes at Bathurst or laguna seca, it wouldn't work out as well as Spa or Monza. if you were to put a F1 car on a track like surfers paradise, where the fastest way around is to bash the crap out of your suspension and no real straight, cars wouldn't make half distance.

its not just about which way the road goes or how steep it is, it the finer details like kerb profiling that can make a large difference in racing quality
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if you were to race prototypes at Bathurst or laguna seca, it wouldn't work out as well as Spa or Monza.
Come again?

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its not just about which way the road goes or how steep it is, it the finer details like kerb profiling that can make a large difference in racing quality
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
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[QUOTE=AoB Special Stage;3772165]Come again?


the tracks are to narrow for overtaking for the wide prototypes.
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Come again?


the tracks are to narrow for overtaking for the wide prototypes.
tell that to Van der Zande.
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