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Adrian Sutil | 10 | 30.30% | |
Jules Bianchi | 23 | 69.70% | |
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27 Feb 2013, 22:30 (Ref:3211885) | #51 | |
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Although results don't lie, except when subject to protest!
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27 Feb 2013, 22:50 (Ref:3211899) | #52 | |
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According to Joe Saward both Sutil and Bianchi have FI contracts, both have been sent plane tickets to Australia by the team. Which one will end up driving who knows?
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/...d-force-india/ |
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27 Feb 2013, 22:59 (Ref:3211910) | #53 | ||
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Would you sign a contract that FI sent you without a signaure on it? I certainly would not! |
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27 Feb 2013, 23:01 (Ref:3211912) | #54 | ||
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Ferrari turbo engines IIRC were basically just bombs! Hence the FIA banned turbos. Who'd want one? |
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27 Feb 2013, 23:44 (Ref:3211942) | #55 | ||
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Ferrari have always prided themselves on building good engines, its the chassis that is more likely to be the weak point. |
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28 Feb 2013, 00:17 (Ref:3211965) | #56 | ||
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I'm disappointed that FI have decided to take Sutil over Bianchi. I've been following JB for years and, despite a few blips along the way, he has been very impressive. Sutil has had his chance. He has shown flashes of speed but I don't feel has ever been one of the best. His consistency isn't there.
Also, by hiring Sutil (again), does this not undermine Force India's initial decision to release him at the end of 2011. He is still convicted of the assault, whatever James Allen says. If he was released because of the criminal charges against him, then nothing has really changed. If he was released because his performance was going nowhere, then what has made the team rethink? |
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28 Feb 2013, 03:26 (Ref:3212044) | #59 | ||
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Correct choice..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105744 This thread is about driver choice isn't it ? |
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28 Feb 2013, 09:15 (Ref:3212129) | #61 | ||
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28 Feb 2013, 12:11 (Ref:3212232) | #63 | ||
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Virtually all driver appointments are made with commercial decisions in mind. All the way down to Formula Renault. To think otherwise is simply living in cloud cuckoo land imho. You don't really think Perez was "scouted" do you?
Having said that, I think you will find Sutil was a tad quicker than DiResta the last time out, although I'm sure Paul has improved considerably since then. Personally I think it'll be a fascinating partnership. |
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28 Feb 2013, 12:20 (Ref:3212235) | #64 | |
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fascinating, as in deja vu we've been here before fascinating?
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28 Feb 2013, 12:36 (Ref:3212242) | #65 | |||
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Having said that it's not really the same as before with Sutil vs DiResta because whoever comes out on top will probably survive into 2014? Things are so close these days with 2/10s maybe moving you 5 or 8 places up the grid I find myself looking back to the old days where you saw an Alonso or Webber outperforming in a Minardi and you could say with some confidence "Yes, he's got it!". Now I find it much harder. |
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28 Feb 2013, 12:48 (Ref:3212246) | #66 | ||
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that's partly why i don't think a year with marussia would be such a terrible thing at all, but there are political engine related reasons why that'll never happen. nothing against sutil, you understand. perfectly competant driver, but there will be no high fives anywhere over that particular signing. |
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I think that Sutil is all that Force India need for the time being. They certainly don't want to finish in the constructors championship any lower than they did last season if survival is an issue. Sutil may not be a superstar, but he is a safe bet for a decent haul of points, and as we all know, points make prizes.
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1 Mar 2013, 01:41 (Ref:3212518) | #68 | ||
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I hope Eric Lux has learnt to keep his hands to himself, and not attempt to lift someone out of a chair who is just there to have a drink with his friends..
Adrian Sutil is a *classically trained* concert pianist apart from needing his hands to drive a F1 car, does anyone REALY believe that he would have put all of that at risk to assault Eric Lux ? Can we please get away from the ” he is a criminal” and look at the possibility that it could well have been an accident and completely unintentional on Sutil’s behalf ? I am glad you are back Sutil, now drive the wheels off that car.. |
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1 Mar 2013, 02:34 (Ref:3212537) | #69 | ||
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This was my response to a poster at Joe Sawards blog today..
Ivory tower clap trap.. |
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1 Mar 2013, 14:58 (Ref:3212751) | #70 | |
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Joe Saward seems very pro-Lux and anti-Sutil in this case.
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1 Mar 2013, 15:17 (Ref:3212762) | #71 | ||
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he is also writing a lot about Sutil's eligibility to get travel documents to several countries often siting Canada as an example of one of them.
i find this strange considering the NHL,NBA,NFL, and MLB routinely have players cross the Canada USA border for events. unless he believes that not a single athlete in any of those categories have criminal records, charges pending, parole obligations, or involved in litigation in some way im not really sure what he is talking about. |
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1 Mar 2013, 15:40 (Ref:3212773) | #72 | |
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I believe he's talked a lot about this possibility without saying anything concrete. The only people I know of to say anything solid about this are Sutil and his management and possibly people from Force India themselves.
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1 Mar 2013, 15:46 (Ref:3212775) | #73 | |
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a quick swot up on visa requirements for the united states leave me generally none the wiser. however, a conviction for assault is grounds for refusal from the elecromagic visa waiver thing, which then means you have to apply for a visa. it's also grounds for a visa refusal, though you can appeal against that in certain circumstances. it's unclear to me whether those requirements are different for the athlete and performer visas - which is probably the type he'd be applying for.
basically, i think it'd depend on the consular official he and his representatives ended up dealing with. the only way to find out would be to apply. |
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Not sure what the fuss is about whether he gets a visa or not, if he doesn't then there are plenty other good drivers who can be slotted in for a race or two. No problem at all. |
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1 Mar 2013, 16:04 (Ref:3212785) | #75 | |
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Well said Jeremy.
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