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Old 23 Nov 2017, 23:27 (Ref:3782528)   #46
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BONUS QUESTIONS

1) Would you be interested in watching an ACO race where this class was the headliner category (above other slower categories, whatever they are) - YES/NO
LM P1 -
LM P2 -
DPi -
LM P3 -
LM GTE-PRO -
LM GTE-AM
GT3 -

2) Would you be interested in watching an ACO race where this class was the sole category racing on track - YES/NO
LM P1 -
LM P2 -
DPi -
LM P3 -
LM GTE-PRO -
LM GTE-AM -
GT3 -
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 02:38 (Ref:3782544)   #47
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I'll get to the original rundown after this.

To the Bonus Questions:
1.)
LMP1- Yes
LMP2/DPI- Yes
LMP3- No
GTE- Yes
GT3- No (Too many national series are already like that.)

2.)
LMP1- No (I doubt there would be enough cars out there to be that interesting.)
LMP2/DPI- Yes (If it's a mix of the two.)
LMP3- No
GTE- Yes
GT3- No (FIA GT already exists.)

I don't worry about the GTE-Pro/GTE-Am distinction. They're the same class of car. That's one nice thing about the GTLM/GTD arrangement in IMSA.
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 02:45 (Ref:3782545)   #48
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Back for the original rankings, after mulling things over.

FIA WEC- 8
ELMS- 7
LMC- 3
AsLMS- 5
AsSC- 1

Silverstone- 6
Spa-Francorchamps- 8
Le Mans- 10
Nurburgring- 6
Mexico City- 5
Austin- 5
Fuji- 6
Shanghai- 5
Bahrain- 5
Sebring- 8

LMP1- 8
LMP2- 7
LMP3- 5
GTE- 9
GT3- 7

I don't follow LMP3 much. As for GTE, see my above post. In addition to that, the score for the class in an individual series would vary based on how many of the different car types are present in the series.

Too many things are still up in the air with the new iteration of LMP1 to put it higher than GTE/GTLM at the moment.

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For ELMS and AsLMS tracks not included in the WEC:
Monza- 8
Red Bull Ring- 7
Paul Ricard- 6
Algarve- 7
Zhuhai- 6
Buriram- 7
Sepang- 7
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For IMSA:
Daytona- 7
Sebring- 8
Long Beach- 6
Austin- 6
Detroit- 6
Watkins Glen- 8
Mosport- 7
Lime Rock- 7
Road America- 9
VIRginia- 9
Laguna Seca- 7
Road Atlanta- 9
Mid Ohio- 8

LMP2/DPI- 9
GTLM- 9
GTD- 7

IMSA- 9

The scales used here have somewhat different benchmarks when comparing IMSA and the WEC, ELMS, etc.

Pulling out the paved run-off at the Glen could make that one a 10. Pulling out the paved run-off and making it an enduro could make Road America a 10. Adding the P cars and making it an enduro could make VIR a 10.

It's hard to compare permanent road courses and street circuits, since the sets of parameters are different. As circuits, I prefer Long Beach and Belle Isle over Austin, but they are short races, and don't include all classes.

Sorry for the serial posts.

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1)
LM P1 - 9
LM P2 - 9
DPi - 9
LM P3 - 3
LM GTE-PRO - 9
LM GTE-AM - 3
GT3 - 0 (SRO already took care of this)

2)
LM P1 - no
LM P2 - no
DPi - no
LM P3 - no
LM GTE-PRO - no
LM GTE-AM - no
GT3 - N/A
Apart from the huge amount of cars in GT3, there are no other classes that can actually sustain a race with healthy double-figure entries on their own (maybe apart from LMP3). Multiclass or nothing, sportscar racing at high level has always been multiclass.
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1) Would you be interested in watching an ACO race where this class was the headliner category (above other slower categories, whatever they are) - YES/NO
LM P1 - Yes
LM P2 - Yes
DPi - Yes
LM P3 - Yes
LM GTE-PRO - Yes
LM GTE-AM - Yes
GT3 - Yes

2) Would you be interested in watching an ACO race where this class was the sole category racing on track - YES/NO
LM P1 - No
LM P2 - No
DPi - No
LM P3 - No
LM GTE-PRO - Yes
LM GTE-AM - Yes
GT3 - Yes

For Q1 - most of these series already exist. WEC, ELMS, IMSA, Le Mans Cup. The only one that doesn't is GTE as the top, but we do see that in IMSA GT only races and as a proof of concept it works. GT3 obviously has the entire SRO catalog proving it works.

For Q2 - Prototypes on track on their own car be quite dull. Might as well watch single seaters at that point. The big draw of prototype racing for me is multi-class as it adds something completely different to the mix. GT racing is a bit different because it can become big touring car races.
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Old 24 Nov 2017, 10:58 (Ref:3782608)   #53
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GT racing is a bit different because it can become big touring car races.
You can do that with LMP2 too. Just ask a few of the current drivers
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On scale of 0 to 10, how would you describe your level of interest for each of these ACO properties for the 2018(-19) season:

FIA World Endurance Championship 10
European Le Mans Series 9
Michelin Le Mans Cup 3
Asian Le Mans Series 6
Asian Le Mans Sprint Cup 3

ELMS still have some special atmosphere, while AsLMS provides some teams and drivers. Nevertheless, sometimes it's too much racing going on and I think some series are interesting only to compete in or cheer for you relatives or friends, who are at the wheel.

Spa 6 Hours (2018-19) 10
Le Mans 24 Hours (2018-19) 10
Silverstone 6 Hours (2018) 9
Fuji 6 Hours (2018) 10
Shanghai 6 Hours (2018) 8
Sebring 1500 Miles (2019) 10

LM P1 10
LM P2 5
LM P3 2
LM GTE-PRO 10
LM GTE-AM 3

I'm not a Drivers' Championship fan as it has to be a monoclass to get the really best of the best. So I do not understand the whole concept of LMP2 with different chassis and attention upon drivers rather that cars. The same goes to LMP3. No engineering evolution - no interest, as I have no friends who compete there.
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