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Old 14 Nov 2017, 18:01 (Ref:3780425)   #16
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Toyota's V6 is 2.4 liters, but they also have a hybrid system.
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Old 14 Nov 2017, 22:09 (Ref:3780475)   #17
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BR1 to be presented at Bahrain on Friday.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...t-bahrain.html
And run at the test?

I suspect not, but surely it should.
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Old 15 Nov 2017, 05:26 (Ref:3780511)   #18
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And run at the test?

I suspect not, but surely it should.
Is that allowed? Or is it only for current (2017 entered) cars/teams?
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Old 15 Nov 2017, 08:38 (Ref:3780525)   #19
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Their choice of engine is puzzling to me. That P60 sounds great but at 2.4 litres can it be competitive against 3 litre NISMO and 3.4 litre Mecachrome?
Hard to say, aer and nismo are two really different engine.
According to some rebellion onboard, the p60 is a high rev engine; in those video the engine was revving up to 8000rpm to push about 600hp and because of that I expect a flat torque release for most of low-mid rpm range, but anyway lower than 600Nm.
Nismo-Cosworth engine is the exact reverse, a true dyno motor. It revs at about 7000rpm and was punshing in a range a 700hp this year in the CLM; it developes no less than 800Nm at low-mid rpm for sure.

About the mecachrome unit, it's a single turbo mounted on the AER derivated old gp3 engine, that had 400hp@8000rpm.
Considering the low torque - high rev nature of the NA engine, I expect to see it work as the aer p60 or the ford gt engine.
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Old 15 Nov 2017, 11:27 (Ref:3780546)   #20
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Don't forget cooling. Look at what Joest have been saying about the Mazda/Riley DPI, basically they were saying the engine needed 30% more cooling to function correctly and that was one of the major overhauls they did for re-homologation. Quite possible that the AER's issues were at least in part linked to that as well?
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Old 15 Nov 2017, 16:32 (Ref:3780586)   #21
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AER engines in both the Mazda and Bykolles were prone to BBQ quite often, so I expect that they did have some cooling issues
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AER engines in both the Mazda and Bykolles were prone to BBQ quite often, so I expect that they did have some cooling issues
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Tomorrow night reveal at Bahrain guys! Looking forward to this!
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Here's a teaser... it does show a lot of the car. Pretty boxy shape, just like the Dallara P217

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ead-of-launch/
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Here's a teaser... it does show a lot of the car. Pretty boxy shape, just like the Dallara P217

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...ead-of-launch/
I would hardly call that a teaser, they actually showed the car! I think we pretty much expected it to be a derivative of the P2 car, and that isn't a bad thing necessarily. Use those lessons and make it better.
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Dragonspeed will use the BR1 in the 2018-19 season. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...1-assault.html Sounds like it will run an uprated Gibson V8.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 16:31 (Ref:3781027)   #27
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^Great news! Nice to see all the privateers that are stepping up to LMP1 after the manufacturers have left. Having a quasi-spc P2 is ruleset is surely helping too. Nice to see folks still want to race in class with bespoke cars.
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Actually, as it turns out, the Gibson V8 is an all-new engine:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...p1-engine.html

4.5 liters.

(Resurrection of the old Zytek pre-2011 LMP1 engine?)
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 16:51 (Ref:3781034)   #29
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Actually, as it turns out, the Gibson V8 is an all-new engine:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...p1-engine.html

4.5 liters.

(Resurrection of the old Zytek pre-2011 LMP1 engine?)
Yeah basically it should be a fuel flow updated version of the engine used in the old ginetta gz09s. Can't remember released figures, but in 2008 or 2009 it was something like 630hp @ 9500 or 10000rpm and about 580Nm.

Good to them if they have been able to throw out reliabile 700hp from a so small unit.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 16:58 (Ref:3781035)   #30
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Anyway given by the fact that BR1 is a slightly modified dallara lmp2, hope that rebellion too may follow this route with an oreca 07 chassis powered by this 4.5L V8.

So what's about next year lmp1 so far?

x2 toyota
x1 CLM (not confirmed yet but likely)
x1 manor ginetta
x1 dragonspeed BR1
x1 SMP BR1

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x1 second manor ginetta
x1-x2 another ginetta team

Unlikely rumors
x1 oreca lmp1 effort
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