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Old 8 May 2017, 11:45 (Ref:3732199)   #1476
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It would be more profitable to "discover" that an unfinished run of SLRs was laid down and never completed due to Dutch Elm Disease in the chassis or something. These totally original 1962 cars can then be released in a strictly limited batch made of modern elm or whatever at a huge profit margin with guaranteed HTPs.


Max, be careful what you wish for! (BTW it's Marcos that employed a wooden chassis ) There are already new (Triumph chassis) SLRs under construction. 3, last time I heard, based on period TR4s and identities. The existing TR chassis car doesn't (or didn't) have an HTP, as it was modified over the years and recent owner(s) didn't want to take the car back to original- thus losing some history. If the new ones are the same as that car when originally built, they should be eligible for papers if the owners want to race.....

Meanwhile- A certain Morgan dealer has decided that if a body buck now exists, why not make some more Morgan chassis SLRs as well........? Not sure how far those plans have got, but expect it will happen.

What the above will never do is devalue the 4 original cars. They are too well known!
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Old 8 May 2017, 14:02 (Ref:3732227)   #1477
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What the above will never do is devalue the 4 original cars. They are too well known!
May well be so, Mike, but you wait until the non-originals become more desirable (i.e. more moolah!) than the famous 4 because of modern construction techniques.
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For any one unfamiliar with the SLR's'

The three Morgan based originals, and the first TR based car.

Note the initials I N A B M.
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Old 8 May 2017, 15:50 (Ref:3732254)   #1479
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Get down to Brands Hatch on Bank Holiday Monday and see some serious competition when the MSCC hold their annual meeting there, Mogs galore in a range of styles, colours, performance. Proper racing with great sounding, and looking, cars.

And no! I am not a member or even a Morgan owner.
I do hope attendance isn't compulsory for ten tethers generally, can't stand the sight of them Just a personal opinion although the SLR's are something else.
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Old 8 May 2017, 16:15 (Ref:3732260)   #1480
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Bauble, sorry I am being dim, but which are the originals and which is the TR one, and what does INABM mean please?

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Old 8 May 2017, 16:20 (Ref:3732261)   #1481
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Found this

http://trenterprises.com/?p=237

Explains the Triumph connection, oh and its#23 above.

And the TR4 SLR re-creation details are here

http://www.rhclassics.co.uk/sales-re...h-slr-project/

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May well be so, Mike, but you wait until the non-originals become more desirable (i.e. more moolah!) than the famous 4 because of modern construction techniques.
Well, the chassis would be same as any other +4 or SLR, (factory still supply), and bodies were individual, so only gains could be in torsional stiffness- but this would have to be achieved within FIA regs for HTP...


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I do hope attendance isn't compulsory for ten tenthers generally, can't stand the sight of them Just a personal opinion although the SLR's are something else.
You're not alone in that. Marmite......

And regarding the SLR- I've always been puzzled as to why a car intended for Le Mans had such a poor headlamp layout..... IMHO the red car has the most aesthetically pleasing rad opening
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Explains the Triumph connection, oh and its#23 above.
Correct. Bob has posted 3 pics of the green car #29, plus one each of the red and unpainted cars. That company is the Triumph specialist building the TR based replicas.
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But who is doing the Morgan recreations/ replicas, Mike?
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Somehow these pics failed to show earlier.

The TR based car and a Morgan that someone likes..

Andy; I'm Not A Bloody Morgan. Pardon my expletive, well not actually mine, of course.
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I do hope attendance isn't compulsory for ten tethers generally, can't stand the sight of them Just a personal opinion although the SLR's are something else.
Shame on you, Sir. Lovely looking traditional British Sports Cars. Do you prefer a Mazda?
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Mike, the SLR was not designed for Le Mans, it was intended to compete against Porsche in sports car races generally, at a time when Porsche was the car to have in private hands.
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I do hope attendance isn't compulsory for ten tethers generally, can't stand the sight of them Just a personal opinion although the SLR's are something else.
Had to read this twice...thought it was the Tenthers you couldn't stand the sight of :ROFL:

I'm not a Morgan-ite either. Chacun a son gout.

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Mike, the SLR was not designed for Le Mans, it was intended to compete against Porsche in sports car races generally, at a time when Porsche was the car to have in private hands.
You are off course correct, as I would expect, but surely LM was one of the races they had in mind? When Porsche introduced the mid engined 904 'road car' it moved the game on too far for many........
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Shame on you, Sir. Lovely looking traditional British Sports Cars. Do you prefer a Mazda?
TVR, Ginetta, Sunbeam, Lotus, Healey, AC and even MG(pre MGB), the list is endless but I'm afraid Morgans don't cut it with me; as Mike says it's a Marmite thing I guess, each to their own What's a Mazda?
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Changing the subject- walking past Nch rail station mid morning, I was nearly mowed down by a convoy of cars exiting. 5 vehicles- 3 Discos with two suited male occupants (all passengers on their phone), a BMW saloon with same, and between them a Jag XJ limo such as politicians get driven around in....

Ah, just found out the PM was in town!
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They obviously couldn't wait to get out of Norfolk!
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TVR, Ginetta, Sunbeam, Lotus, Healey, AC and even MG(pre MGB), the list is endless but I'm afraid Morgans don't cut it with me; as Mike says it's a Marmite thing I guess, each to their own What's a Mazda?




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The PM / entourage had just arrived, it appears! Bet the train was on time, and their carriage didn't smell of sick......
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TVR, Ginetta, Sunbeam, Lotus, Healey, AC and even MG(pre MGB), the list is endless but I'm afraid Morgans don't cut it with me; as Mike says it's a Marmite thing I guess, each to their own What's a Mazda?
Mere toys, of course.
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Mmm, I remember now the Mazda is a Japanese imitation Elan.
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Shame on you, Sir. Lovely looking traditional British Sports Cars. Do you prefer a Mazda?
Be careful, Bob, the more recent Plus 4s (including the limited edition "Baby doll" MK V racers) have 2 litre Duratec engines (actually a Mazda MZR, designed by Yamaha, I think) and a 6 speed gearbox, both the same as you would get in.....a Mazda MX5 Mk3.
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Be careful, Bob, the more recent Plus 4s (including the limited edition "Baby doll" MK V racers) have 2 litre Duratec engines (actually a Mazda MZR, designed by Yamaha, I think) and a 6 speed gearbox, both the same as you would get in.....a Mazda MX5 Mk3.
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I was searching the old memory banks to list the engines that Morgan have used over the years. Here's a start.... (No search engines involved )

BMW V8 of different types or spec
Rover V8 of different specs
Ford V6 of different types
Ford / Cosworth Duratec
Triumph TR
Rover 'O' series
Fiat TwinCam
Ford CVH (probably the least desirable....)
Ford Pre Crossflow GT spec
Coventry Climax
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