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(Note, I say this without having crunched the numbers. It would be interesting to see some true statistical analysis. My argument supposes that the bell curve that will define the general range of performance for a set of drivers will be much narrower than it has been in the past. That the time delta, or better said, the percentage off the best time between the best and the average is decreasing over time. Or for the math geeks, I suspect the standard deviation is trending smaller.) Anyhow... Ultimately only one can be the winner. And we are not seeing a slew of rookies winning races. Or if someone is young and does stand out (i.e. Max), it is likely that person actually has exceptional skill. Granted, in F1 the entire package matters (chassis, engine, crew, etc.) and that is a big factor in this current turbo era. But in identical cars you are going to see an even distribution of results between experienced and rookie drivers? Take Mercedes for example. Drop the average young rookie into that car and do you think Hamilton is going to win 50% of the time? Absolutely not. It's highly likely Hamilton would crush that rookie teammate over the course of a season. The same goes for a handful of other top level drivers. To me this is a fact. And give this fact... these rookies can't be "on the pace". But if your definition of "on the pace" means that they are somewhere close, but not fighting for wins, then yes they are on the pace. Richard Last edited by Richard C; 6 Aug 2017 at 17:29. |
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Arguably the gap between F2 and F1 is larger than it has been in a LONG time due to the massive power difference. About 400hp difference, and a completely different type of power delivery. There have been times (in the glorious 60s for example), than the gap between F2 and F1 was smaller, but nobody would dare use that as a reason to say it was too easy.
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For the past few seasons the GP2 champion has either missed out on F1 or had to spend a season on the sidelines before coming to F1 a la Palmer and Vandoorne. So there is definitely something not right there, hopefully F2 will fix it soon
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Here's a possibly mad idea that's just occurred to me: the WCC is contractually obliged to run a third car for the reigning F2 champion.
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How about third cars for Saturday race (after qualifying, but not a full GP distance, no required pit stops to change tires). One car per team, restrictions on drivers (i.e. no drivers with substantial F1 experience). Drivers may have something similar to a superlicense, but with slightly relaxed experience requirements (to help facilitate new drivers who don't have the required mileage). Separate championship for this Saturday series (i.e. this does not impact regular F1 series). For struggling teams, they may fill the grid with pay drivers (ala Stroll), while top tier teams can use this to test out those who are making it more on talent than budget. Find some way to bring in guest drivers from other series for the entertainment factor. Potential less restrictions on power unit allocations (allow development engines). I just made that up on the fly. It may be full of holes. Clearly it adds cost which is the biggest issue. Richard |
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Morally/economically it might be, but mandating an automatic progression doesn't seem logical. A prize might be a full house test in a current F1 car somewhere, to get a flavour for the pilot... a race seat has far more financial implications than that. |
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But would Ferrari want an MB/RB driver learning from the inside how the car works? It's not as much the cash backing as the inside knowledge of the current car. I know the teams can pretty much get a majority of the information from trackside observation, but those little details and how things work could be useful, with the right driver of course.
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I hope Leclerc gets a race seat next year so that Formula 2 gets off to a good start. Palmer, Vandoorne and Gasly all having to go elsewhere was not a good pattern for the FIA's official feeder series.
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How many thousand miles is your armchair from the paddock?
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Lol, if you were there you might here it. Sure, he has talent. But he's no future star.
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I'm having flashbacks to the Sportscar forum! I love when people try and dismiss others opinions by being an insider.
For the record, my armchair is 419.5 miles from the paddock. But this varies if we use any paddock that isn't Silverstone, or change the route. |
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Welcome to 2017 Most-Inside-Insider Games, now at our new home in the F1 Forum!
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Lets keep this on the topic, 99% of the members of the F1 section are spectators with no insider knowledge, in these forums feel free to speculate. But if you are one of the 1% that is actually involved in F1 with "insider knowledge" then you have 2 options 1. Sit quietly at your keyboard laughing at the speculation, 2. Rebuff the suggestion posting correct information with a usable source. "I was there I know" type comments when stated from behind an alias just winds other members up. Please continue on topic. |
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However far away Australia is to Austria is mine. I myself have more inside involvement in V8 Supercars
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Yeah Richard and the group, if I was complicit, my bad. Moving on,
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