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Old 12 Dec 2017, 01:12 (Ref:3786427)   #811
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Or put more accurately - the Auto Hebdo story that said the same 3 days earlier!


Don't follow Aut Hebdo so wasn't too sure of it til it went up on a rather more trusty fact-orientated site called DSC
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Old 12 Dec 2017, 03:10 (Ref:3786448)   #812
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Confirmation might come as early as Wednesday according to the 'more IMSA orientated' Racer.com source.
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Old 12 Dec 2017, 03:43 (Ref:3786451)   #813
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Don't follow Aut Hebdo so wasn't too sure of it til it went up on a rather more trusty fact-orientated site called DSC
A-H is usually reliable. Motorsport.com is big but they aren't always the first.
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Old 12 Dec 2017, 09:03 (Ref:3786497)   #814
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A-H is usually reliable. Motorsport.com is big but they aren't always the first.
I fine that Motorsport.com arent always too bothered about being strictly factual either hence my unsureness of them
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Old 12 Dec 2017, 10:30 (Ref:3786505)   #815
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My WEC list might be a bit dusty in the P2 (has anyone else even confirmed intent other than Manor??), GTE Am sections, but other than that looking like a cracker of a season... shame theres only 5 events in 2018...

FIA WEC Entry List 2018

LMP1

Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
By Kolles - CLM P/01 NISMO -
Manor Racing - Ginetta P1 Meccachrome -
Manor Racing - Ginetta P1 Meccachrome (possible) -
Dragonspeed - Dallara BR-1 Gibson -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
TBA - Ginetta P1 -
TBA - Ginetta P1 -
Rebellion Racing - TBA (possible) - Neel Jani / Bruno Senna / Matthias Beche
Rebellion Racing - TBA (possible) - Andre Lotterer / Thomas Laurent /Gustavo Menezes

LMP2

Manor Racing - Oreca 07 Gibson -

GTE PRO

AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GTE Evo -
AF Corse - Ferrari 488 GTE Evo -
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin Vantage GTE - Alex Lynn / Darren Turner / Johnny Adam / Nicky Thiim / Marco Sorensen
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin Vantage GTE -
M-Tek - BMW M8 GTE -
M-Tek - BMW M8 GTE -
Chip Ganassi Racing (UK) - Ford GT GTE - Stefan Mucke / Olivier Pla
Chip Ganassi Racing (UK) - Ford GT GTE - Andy Priaulx / Harry Ticknell
Porsche GT Team - Porsche 911 RSR GTE - Gianmaria Bruni / Richard Lietz
Porsche GT Team - Porsche 911 RSR GTE - Kevin Estre / Michael Christensen


GTE AM

Clearwater Racing - Ferrari 488 GTE -
Project 1 - Porsche 911 RSR GTE -
Proton Competition - Porsche 911 RSR GTE -
Proton Competition - Porsche 911 RSR GTE -
Aston Martin Racing - Aston Martin Vantage GTE (possible) -
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Rebellion confirmed his 2018 lmp1 effort with 2 cars.

9 Lmp1 so far! one manufacturer down, a whole class rising.

Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
By Kolles - CLM P/01 NISMO -
Manor Racing - Ginetta P1 Meccachrome -
Dragonspeed - Dallara BR-1 Gibson -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
Rebellion Racing
Rebellion Racing

I expect to see rebellion with a lmp1 modified oreca 07, my bet on gibson 4.5 about the engine.
I don't expect a second ginetta for team manor.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 18:21 (Ref:3786861)   #817
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Looking very good. My money (which I wouldn't count on) for the TBA Ginettas is they'll become Alpines.

So, assuming Rebellion do go with ORECA (which isn't confirmed), right now we're up to 5 different chassis and 5 different engines.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 18:53 (Ref:3786866)   #818
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Rebellion confirmed his 2018 lmp1 effort with 2 cars.

9 Lmp1 so far! one manufacturer down, a whole class rising.

Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
Toyota Gazoo Racing - Toyota TS050 -
By Kolles - CLM P/01 NISMO -
Manor Racing - Ginetta P1 Meccachrome -
Dragonspeed - Dallara BR-1 Gibson -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
SMP Racing (ART GP) - Dallara BR-1 AER -
Rebellion Racing
Rebellion Racing

I expect to see rebellion with a lmp1 modified oreca 07, my bet on gibson 4.5 about the engine.
I don't expect a second ginetta for team manor.
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Looking very good. My money (which I wouldn't count on) for the TBA Ginettas is they'll become Alpines.

So, assuming Rebellion do go with ORECA (which isn't confirmed), right now we're up to 5 different chassis and 5 different engines.
Looking more and more forward to this upcoming season with each additional announcement! The quality of drivers announced so far seems very high. Hope the cars can product the type of racing we expect.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 18:59 (Ref:3786868)   #819
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Looking more and more forward to this upcoming season with each additional announcement! The quality of drivers announced so far seems very high. Hope the cars can product the type of racing we expect.

Don't know that actually are you expecting, but to me lmp1 championship will be really unfair with toyota 2-3 seconds faster than anyone else race to race.
Anyway, this and maybe next year too LM will be achieved by a private lmp1 or lmp2 team, because you know.... s**t happens, and when it does, it always picks toyota.

About ginettas, honestly I expect to see a pair of extra cars fielded only directly by ginetta (featuring manor or another team) at le mans.
I don't expect to see kolles car outside europe as well.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 19:08 (Ref:3786869)   #820
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Don't know that actually are you expecting, but to me lmp1 championship will be really unfair with toyota 2-3 seconds faster than anyone else race to race.
Anyway, this and maybe next year too LM will be achieved by a private lmp1 or lmp2 team, because you know.... s**t happens, and when it does, it always picks toyota.

About ginettas, honestly I expect to see a pair of extra cars fielded only directly by ginetta (featuring manor or another team) at le mans.
I don't expect to see kolles car outside europe as well.
Imo Kolles gave up this year to do the entire campaign for the super season. They have been out testing the car and updates for that reason. It's a cheaper expense too since there's less races per year. Maybe these new lmp1s are extremely fast. I don't see why they wouldn't be looking at the lmp2 pace. The cars will be 80kg lighter and have close to 100 more horsepower.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 19:15 (Ref:3786873)   #821
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Well LMP looking much better than anyone expected 3 months ago and if, as indicated in earlier post, all using different power plants then that will make thinks even more interesting. Really looking forward to heading to Spa for my first look at these new machines
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 20:05 (Ref:3786888)   #822
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Imo Kolles gave up this year to do the entire campaign for the super season. They have been out testing the car and updates for that reason. It's a cheaper expense too since there's less races per year. Maybe these new lmp1s are extremely fast. I don't see why they wouldn't be looking at the lmp2 pace. The cars will be 80kg lighter and have close to 100 more horsepower.
About weight, honestly I don't think that private lmp1 will be ever able to achieve that target (about 840kg). Expecially turbo cars.
Very likely the whole lmp1 roster will run in the 900kg range.

If we talk about performances, I expect this:
Le mans

toyota: a carefull 3.18 without any real time attack (3.14-3.15 possible again)

private lmp1: 3.212-3.22 range at best

lmp2: 3.24 at best
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 20:57 (Ref:3786897)   #823
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Probably not happening now as per Graham Godwin over on the reddit WEC page.
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Probably not happening now as per Graham Godwin over on the reddit WEC page.
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Don't know that actually are you expecting, but to me lmp1 championship will be really unfair with toyota 2-3 seconds faster than anyone else race to race.
I don't know what I am expecting either! Lol. Poor choice of words on my part. I guess I just hope the cars are competitive with each other, and reliable. And if they are faster than the P2's that would be even better. I don't expect them to be on Toyota pace but that doesn't bother me at all. But if Toyota has a problem during a race I expect one of the new cars to be able to capitalize.
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