Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 56

AGD · 29 Dec 2011, 03:05 (Ref:3005022)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

Or could it be that Proton/Felbermayr are stepping up? They haven't announced anything and they are pretty big in GT...

Perhaps, but I have trouble seeing that happening. Prospeed or BMS maybe? RLL seems like a team that would like to run a prototype and they have Honda connections, but I can't imagine them running a WEC program in addition to their ALMS GT program. What about someone like AF Corse? Could they run a prototype program on behalf of someone else? What about Young Driver or someone like that?

Acid09 · 29 Dec 2011, 03:39 (Ref:3005026)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

Or could it be that Proton/Felbermayr are stepping up? They haven't announced anything and they are pretty big in GT...

I have a hard time imagining them doing anything but Porsche but there is the factor that Porsche has another top-class team waiting to step up (Manthey).

sooo....who knows.

JayBMS · 29 Dec 2011, 07:12 (Ref:3005055)

Staring to think this could be an ex GT1 team. Have Marc VDS announced anything? Their fords are gone, they ran a lola-Aston Martin last year and run Honda engined bikes in Moto 2

Simmi · 29 Dec 2011, 09:50 (Ref:3005079)

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Originally Posted by acox93

Just know through a friend who will be working on the project. I dont know any other details though.

Cool thanks for sharing. That looks likely to be the two-car Lola LMP2 team that was set to be announced in the New Year. Hopefully at least one of their cars will have a quick line-up. LMP2 is going to be insane next season.

As for the Honda team. Hindy says a 'GT team', DSC says a team well-established from outside Sportscars. I'm stumped.

Final punt - what are Kronos doing next year? They were at Le Mans in some capacity with the Lola-Aston. Did Marc Van Dalen like what he saw?

rich07 · 29 Dec 2011, 09:53 (Ref:3005081)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Perhaps, but I have trouble seeing that happening. Prospeed or BMS maybe? RLL seems like a team that would like to run a prototype and they have Honda connections, but I can't imagine them running a WEC program in addition to their ALMS GT program. What about someone like AF Corse? Could they run a prototype program on behalf of someone else? What about Young Driver or someone like that?

AF Corse already run the Pecom Racing LMP.

I really cant see Felbermayer running an LMP and what ever have BMS been doing this past year or so? They havent been on the international scene thats for sure.

As much as I like seeing more teams boosting the ranks of the LMPs I would rather not see established GT teams such as Felbermayer or JMW leaving GT, they're needed in GT. We need strong GT competition to carry on, some of us might prefer no GTs or just a token handful but they do compliment the prototypes and the battle between Ferrari and Porsche is as fierce as its ever been and I dont want to see that affected by teams leaving GT for LMP.

AGD · 29 Dec 2011, 10:28 (Ref:3005086)

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Originally Posted by rich07

AF Corse already run the Pecom Racing LMP.

Perhaps they could take on another project in addition? Unlikely, but I guess it could be thrown out there.

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I really cant see Felbermayer running an LMP and what ever have BMS been doing this past year or so? They havent been on the international scene thats for sure.

I cannot remember now, but was there a rumor that BMS was flat out rejected for an entry at Le Mans this year? I could be way off on that.

The Marc VDS rumor looks like it could be plausible. Who was the funding behind the Kronos/MVDS Aston at Le Mans?

Victor_RO · 29 Dec 2011, 10:38 (Ref:3005090)

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Originally Posted by AGD

I cannot remember now, but was there a rumor that BMS was flat out rejected for an entry at Le Mans this year? I could be way off on that.

They weren't flat-out rejected, but they got the 5th and last GT reserve slot, which is basically a polite rejection.

rich07 · 29 Dec 2011, 10:58 (Ref:3005100)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Perhaps they could take on another project in addition? Unlikely, but I guess it could be thrown out there.

I cannot remember now, but was there a rumor that BMS was flat out rejected for an entry at Le Mans this year? I could be way off on that.

The Marc VDS rumor looks like it could be plausible. Who was the funding behind the Kronos/MVDS Aston at Le Mans?

I cant see why AF Corse would take on another project that would in competition with them in the same class.

Maybe BMS was rejected because they havent been keeping up appearances? I could understand why they would be rejected for an entry on that basis.

EDIT: Just saw Victor's post above this-sounds like a polite rejection, BMS havent been as active as they used to. I miss them.

Marc VDS seems possible, it was a bit sudden when they decided to drop everything except for the Blancpain programme for next year so maybe this is filling the gaps for them?

AGD · 29 Dec 2011, 11:01 (Ref:3005101)

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Originally Posted by rich07

I cant see why AF Corse would take on another project that would in competition with them in the same class.

We're talking about a P1 HPD, right? Pecom is P2.

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Maybe BMS was rejected because they havent been keeping up appearances? I could understand why they would be rejected for an entry on that basis.

Probably. They weren't in the ALMS, LMS, or ILMC in 2011. Three strikes and you're out it seems. Just ask WR!

alexkiller8 · 29 Dec 2011, 11:05 (Ref:3005102)

maybe ESM, tequila patron would pay (or lease) for them a car to make them run at le mans, hoping for some visibility for the paint scheme of the car (because alchol sponsorship is not allowed in european races).

rich07 · 29 Dec 2011, 11:11 (Ref:3005105)

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Originally Posted by AGD

We're talking about a P1 HPD, right? Pecom is P2.

Ah yes my mistake. Could be possibly, would be they have the resources though? I dont think Ferrari would be highly amused if it distracted AF from their Ferrari GT programme.

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

maybe ESM, tequila patron would pay (or lease) for them a car to make them run at le mans, hoping for some visibility for the paint scheme of the car (because alchol sponsorship is not allowed in european races).

Ah ESM Springwater...refreshing

NelisB · 29 Dec 2011, 11:13 (Ref:3005106)

Graham Goodwin confirmed on Twitter it's neither JMW or Proton. But someone said we should look outside of GT racing. I don't know if that's true but if it is all the guesses we're making are in the wrong direction.

Could it be Newman/Haas's old Indy car team that didn't sign up this year for Indycar?

[edit] The team owner Carl Haas apparently said; "The economic climate no longer enables Newman/Haas Racing to participate in open wheel racing at this time."

Source
Maybe that's a hint to them joining LMP1?

AGD · 29 Dec 2011, 11:49 (Ref:3005117)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

Could it be Newman/Haas's old Indy car team that didn't sign up this year for Indycar?

There was talk that Newman/Haas would be racing a P2 Lola-HPD in the ALMS in 2012. I'm not sure where the money would come from for them to run the WEC when they were operating on a bit of a shoestring budget in the IRL apparently. Maybe Honda is helping them out, but it just seems a bit odd for an American team to run the WEC like that. I suppose it is plausible.

Coach Ep · 29 Dec 2011, 12:15 (Ref:3005121)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Staring to think this could be an ex GT1 team. Have Marc VDS announced anything? Their fords are gone, they ran a lola-Aston Martin last year and run Honda engined bikes in Moto 2

Nope, tweet from Bas Leinders on 11 dec.

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There are no plans that @marcvdsracing will run the @AMR_Teams Lola-Aston or any other car in #Lemans next year.

NelisB · 29 Dec 2011, 12:17 (Ref:3005123)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Nope, tweet from Bas Leinders on 11 dec.

I guess mr VDS is starting to feel te " recession "

lms · 29 Dec 2011, 12:37 (Ref:3005126)

anyone heard anything about those two HPD 03bs who will race in wec next year?
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-8898.html

speaking of HPD:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&type=1&ref=nf

and yes. lmp2 will be mega

Coach Ep · 29 Dec 2011, 12:50 (Ref:3005129)

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Originally Posted by lms

anyone heard anything about those two HPD 03bs who will race in wec next year?
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-8898.html

Probably Strakka and RML.

gwyllion · 29 Dec 2011, 12:53 (Ref:3005130)

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Originally Posted by lms

anyone heard anything about those two HPD 03bs who will race in wec next year?
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-8898.html

Perhaps RML?

NelisB · 29 Dec 2011, 12:56 (Ref:3005133)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Probably Strakka and RML.

Strakka made the step up to LMP1.

gwyllion · 29 Dec 2011, 13:05 (Ref:3005135)

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Originally Posted by NelisB

Strakka made the step up to LMP1.

Yes, but there are rumors that Strakka might run the HPD ARX03b as second car.

AGD · 29 Dec 2011, 13:09 (Ref:3005138)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Perhaps RML?

I've heard some Mike Newton-WEC rumors, but would that be with an ARX-03b? Their new ARX-01 has only done a couple of races. Granted, they'd have to update that to 2012 cost-capped spec and if they did that, maybe it would just be more cost effective to get the new tub as well. Who knows.

Mal · 29 Dec 2011, 13:10 (Ref:3005139)

Could it be a Super GT team? Would that count as another branch of motorsport and a GT team stepping up? Being Japanese could also make sense.

NelisB · 29 Dec 2011, 13:17 (Ref:3005141)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Yes, but there are rumors that Strakka might run the HPD ARX03b as second car.

Ah. That I didn't know, thanks.

wewantourdarbyback · 29 Dec 2011, 16:58 (Ref:3005189)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

I wouldn't write him off just like that. Lots of drivers who didn't do anything in F1 turned out to be great sports car racers.

Just look at Ant Davidson. He never really made it further than being a backmarker in F1 and he's an absolute star in LMP1 right now.

I'm not writing Karun off for his time in F1, the opposite, we can't judge him on his HRT time, I'm going by his lower formula record.

JAG · 29 Dec 2011, 17:04 (Ref:3005197)

Could United Autosports be running the Honda P1, they're a GT team, worked with DAMS at PLM, it's known they have ambitions to run in the WEC.

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