’10 ALMS Round 7 • Road America • August 18th – 22nd

[dj4monie]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Favors for ESM? Like getting slammed into the wall? Thanks, but NO! I do not want any favors like that.

L.P.

Yes I remember Fishi banging Brown into the wall at Mid Ohio. But that's the nature of the race track, not any excuses he tried to squeeze into a small opening and Brown closed the door.

But at the same time, ESM is in no position to do anything but help Ferrari's lead team at this point. It made no difference in the Manufacturer's Title chase but it did slightly impact the Team and Driver's Championship.

I'm sensing a Pow Wow soon.

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

Yes I remember Fishi banging Brown into the wall at Mid Ohio. But that's the nature of the race track, not any excuses he tried to squeeze into a small opening and Brown closed the door.

But at the same time, ESM is in no position to do anything up help Ferrari's lead team at this point. It made no difference in the Manufacturer's Title chase but it did slightly impact the Team and Driver's Championship.

I'm sensing a Pow Wow soon.

ESM, are not there to help Risi, they are there to beat Risi, just like every other GT2 team on the grid.

[dj4monie]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

ESM, are not there to help Risi, they are there to beat Risi, just like every other GT2 team on the grid.

Their in no position to do anything and especially not the #02. I have no problem with them winning and being competitive and its Risi own fault they went backwards. I'm just saying the final pass which happen in Canada Corner on the last lap wasn't needed.

But whatever, I'm entitled to my opinion.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

ESM, are not there to help Risi, they are there to beat Risi, just like every other GT2 team on the grid.

Zacktly!!!



L.P.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

I'm just saying the final pass which happen in Canada Corner on the last lap wasn't needed.

I'm sure Mr.'s Melo, Bruni, and Risi would agree with you on that one!

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

I'm just saying the final pass which happen in Canada Corner on the last lap wasn't needed.

But whatever, I'm entitled to my opinion.

Thats like saying Cockers final pass on Graf with 2 corners to go wasn't needed, makes no difference what car they are driving they are 2 competing teams, ESM is out of the title chase and took points away from Risi, Drayson is out of the title chase yet took points away from Cytosport.

Heck the Corvette's are out of the title hunt, so was there barging Bruni off not needed either?

Get a grip man and stop talking nonsense.

[rdt012237]

uhh yea... I've heard of team orders Dj are you suggesting manufactuer's orders now?

[fieldodreams79]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

The yellows were a factor but not really, it kept closing up the field.

Not sure if you agreeing or disagreeing...

Pretty sure two of the full course cautions, the LMPC/BMW backstretch shunt & the Jag parking it, took up at the very least 25-30 minutes of the race; that's nearly 20% of the timed race on those two cautions alone (not sure why it took so long to get the Jag off the track). Cautions were most certainly a factor in keeping the field close, and the timing of said cautions, and others, bunched the fields up, as you yourself eluded to.

[old man]

From the Drayson website;

http://www.draysonracing.com/video/player/2010/

According to my research first ALL British win, previous British winners have either been American teams or included non British drivers, appropriate perhaps for a team owned by a former British Government Technology Minister

[dj4monie]

Originally Posted by rdt012237

uhh yea... I've heard of team orders Dj are you suggesting manufactuer's orders now?

It wouldn't be the first time now would it? What's most important the Manufacturer's Title, Driver's Title or Team Title? To Ferrari its obvious.

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Thats like saying Cockers final pass on Graf with 2 corners to go wasn't needed, makes no difference what car they are driving they are 2 competing teams, ESM is out of the title chase and took points away from Risi, Drayson is out of the title chase yet took points away from Cytosport.

Heck the Corvette's are out of the title hunt, so was there barging Bruni off not needed either?

Get a grip man and stop talking nonsense.

O'Connell pushed Melo onto the grass at Lime Rock, that DNF is a killer. I have a grip get off the Queen's throne.

You're the one not making any sense. Cosmo was not going to gain anything by passing Bruni at the end. He finished 5th, not in line for the victory. What was on the line but only moving up from 6th, 2 points.

At the front you have to try and Cocker pushed like mad and got there. It helped the Porsche coughed going into Canada Corner though.

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Not sure if you agreeing or disagreeing...

Pretty sure two of the full course cautions, the LMPC/BMW backstretch shunt & the Jag parking it, took up at the very least 25-30 minutes of the race; that's nearly 20% of the timed race on those two cautions alone (not sure why it took so long to get the Jag off the track). Cautions were most certainly a factor in keeping the field close, and the timing of said cautions, and others, bunched the fields up, as you yourself eluded to.

I'm just saying the yellow's bailed the team out. If it had run caution free and knowing for sure they had to make two stops and splash for fuel, they would have been a lap down or more.

They got the victory and its a feel good moment in the paddock.

[Zurbert82]

Originally Posted by dj4monie

Nobody? It seems Racing as a whole is not nearly as uptight about showing races as the Movie/TV/Music industry is. Look how much NASCAR content is on You Tube. Look how much SCCA Trans Am content is on You Tube.

Old races have little value to most of these series so its just another form of nostalgia that we the fan base engage in. Yes Marshall got permission to re-show old IMSA races on his web site, but all the footage come from private hands and he works for a media content company, he's not allowed to be a hypocrite.

I'm sure somebody in racing knows about "The Underground" but doubt they have gotten a letter from even Uncle Bernie who wants to bleed every penny he can out of F1's media rights.

It just not that serious I guess.

I was going to stream some of the Speed races live but its a bit complicated and I wanna make sure its a good experience before I do it.

I've always said ALMS should embrace torrents, they could just upload all the races to a network like Vuze or even as a podcast up to Itunes and Zune just attach an RSS feed too it and would be easy to download and watch.

Racefanstv has to get its ALMS races from somebody in Europe. But its been showing all the races from the early years and its interesting to see how the old 996 Porsche GT2 car doesn't look much different than the current Cup cars in GTC.

Good points. Without such I would have been unable to watch the race on DVD in its entirety yesterday. Awesome race

[tkelland]

As far as all this banter about Cosmo passing the Risi car at the end, rather than team orders or gaining more points. Has it occurred to anyone that these are RACING drivers, they try to pass or avoid being passed until the checkered flag falls and maybe it was just ESM's way of showing Risi and Ferrari that they are really getting their heads around these cars and that they could be a force in the remaining races and next year?