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Old 24 Sep 2016, 00:26 (Ref:3674647)   #351
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So have Nissan, for 2018 at least.
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Old 7 May 2017, 11:54 (Ref:3731918)   #352
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Nissan To Run Pulsar Supercar In 2019?
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Old 7 May 2017, 19:13 (Ref:3732019)   #353
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Rex's are about $475k AUD.
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Old 7 May 2017, 22:01 (Ref:3732048)   #354
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Old 9 May 2017, 06:06 (Ref:3732385)   #355
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Is it too late for Mustang?

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Old 9 May 2017, 06:12 (Ref:3732386)   #356
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They keep saying it, but I am just not sure who is listening!
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Old 9 May 2017, 09:09 (Ref:3732423)   #357
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Now that fills me with a wave of excitement, the Nissan Pulsar SUPERCAR,
should bring in spectators and fans by the truckload, far better than those nasty V8's.

What the hell are they thinking ????????????????
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Old 9 May 2017, 11:38 (Ref:3732453)   #358
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Now that fills me with a wave of excitement, the Nissan Pulsar SUPERCAR,
I don't see what the issue is. BTCC draws huge crowds while racing Levorgs (Impreza wagon), Civics, Focuses, BMW 1 Series, MG6, Audi A3... Sounds more like a personal prejudice against compact class vehicles.

As you know, historically Nissan released the Pulsar GTiR -- nicknamed the "baby Godzilla". It featured AWD, a turbo and even indvidual throttle bodies. A real rally beast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQvSSOIswCE

These days Nissan have released a Sentra (Pulsar) Nismo, albeit it has the looks, bucket seats etc but not the sportier 210bhp engine of the modern Juke Nismo... instead making do with 188bhp. It's a lower priced vehicle than the 300-350 bhp Civic Type R, Levorg, Focus RS or Audi S3 class of vehicle which are quite a lot more expensive than the Sentra Nismo.

Anyway, Supercars will run 670bhp, considerably more than the BTCC's 400bhp too.

However, I am concerned and disappointed that downsized racing V6 turbos sound TERRIBLE compared to V8s. That's a real pity.
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Old 9 May 2017, 11:48 (Ref:3732455)   #359
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Depends a lot on which way they go with intake and exhaust on the V6 turbo. Could sound unreal, for all we know.
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Old 10 May 2017, 01:53 (Ref:3732563)   #360
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Could sound unreal, for all we know.
Hahaha, you're funny. Experience says that making a V6 Turbo good is pretty much impossible.

Ford GT Ecoboost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4VQjz-WhA (just awful, sounds like indigestion)
Nissan GTR GT3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ErapiECM1A (farty)
Honda NSX GT3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQDIfjm-PZI (quiet, whooshy, farty)

There is just no comparison to the sound of a crossplane or flatplane naturally aspirated V8.

Status quo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8HtOYV7hc (what a sound! entertaining Bazza and Shazza on the hill since '93 )
Mercedes Erebus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFmpLAliiuA (symphonic!))
Volvo Polestar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3jXFJMVrc (yowzah!)
Ferrari 458 GT3 takes on hillclimb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjCAxVVI4KE (Wow!!!)
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Old 10 May 2017, 07:13 (Ref:3732598)   #361
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Just witness F1's problem for the turbo V6 sound issue!
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Old 10 May 2017, 08:47 (Ref:3732620)   #362
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Jimmy W said there would be a minimum decibel level that engines would need to meet. I'm sure it will turn out alright.
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Old 10 May 2017, 09:35 (Ref:3732629)   #363
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Jimmy W said there would be a minimum decibel level that engines would need to meet. I'm sure it will turn out alright.
Well if the Warbler says it will be ok, who are we to argue with that.
I'm sure the blat of a turbo'd 4 will excite far more than the roar of a V8.
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Hahaha, you're funny. Experience says that making a V6 Turbo good is pretty much impossible.

Ford GT Ecoboost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4VQjz-WhA (just awful, sounds like indigestion)
Nissan GTR GT3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ErapiECM1A (farty)
Honda NSX GT3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQDIfjm-PZI (quiet, whooshy, farty)

There is just no comparison to the sound of a crossplane or flatplane naturally aspirated V8.

Status quo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8HtOYV7hc (what a sound! entertaining Bazza and Shazza on the hill since '93 )
Mercedes Erebus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFmpLAliiuA (symphonic!))
Volvo Polestar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3jXFJMVrc (yowzah!)
Ferrari 458 GT3 takes on hillclimb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjCAxVVI4KE (Wow!!!)
The GTR sounds like a literal beast mate, in my opinion V6 Turbos can sound just as good if not better than a V8 as I fan I'll love having a variety of engine tones throughot the field just another added element
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Just witness F1's problem for the turbo V6 sound issue!
F1 engines are really incomparable to the Supercars engines. The noise on the F1 is significantly reduced by the Hybrid system not the fact it's a V6
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Old 10 May 2017, 10:10 (Ref:3732635)   #366
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Jimmy W said there would be a minimum decibel level that engines would need to meet. I'm sure it will turn out alright.
It's the same level that the current V8 has to meet
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Well if the Warbler says it will be ok, who are we to argue with that.
He knows best, the category is heading for never before seen heights under his expert leadership
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Jimmy W said there would be a minimum decibel level that engines would need to meet. I'm sure it will turn out alright.
Decibels are a poor measure. They're just a method of drowning out the commentators.

Better to run the engine and have a group of spectators and marshals standing by. If they smile, it qualifies!

Given the choice between a solitary silenced V8 hillclimb car and a full field of F3s, I don't think I'd be putting on a CD of the F3s...
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Quite simple really, regardless of how much development is done the new car will still be a bit of an unknown going into 2018. By having one existing spec car, it will allow the team to benchmark changes against the incumbent in a live rather than simulated environment.

With no financial incentive to do so, the other Holden teams were never going to bin their current hardware in a hurry. To date with no one entertaining the idea of running a Gen2 car it has been a moot point, but once homologated could the new car actually be raced this year, given that the original timetable was for new cars this season?

If so and if one of the 888 drivers slips out of championship contention, 888 may elect to get some race miles on board the new car. This would also be dependent on when Holden intend to unveil the road car.
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Why the surprise GTR?
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Because it wouldn't have happened on Mr McNamara's watch...
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Because it wouldn't have happened on Mr McNamara's watch...
Correct.

Teams would have been 'encouraged' to update.
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Let's face it; uptake on the Gen2 ruleset has been quite underwhelming.

Although it's only allowing greater freedom of bodystyles and engines, the manufacturers involved in the series have not really jumped at it. Sure, Holden have declared they'll be running a new body and engine next year, but Nissan are sticking with what they've got, and Ford likewise. I would not be surprised if the V6TT engine is dumped before the year's out.
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Because it wouldn't have happened on Mr McNamara's watch...
But it did.

He signed the contract with triple 8
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