James Phelps Discussion Thread (Merged)

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

James Phelps has been writing about v8 supercars for over ten years, he has the cred

Woah!

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

James Phelps has been writing about v8 supercars for over ten years, he has the cred

How does that give him the cred?

[peckstar]

The experience of writing professionally about a series for ten years, if he didn't have Cred he wouldnt be still writing and he wouldnt be on inside supercars

And he has more cred because he makes posters on here cry so that gives him lots of cred

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

The experience of writing professionally about a series for ten years, if he didn't have Cred he wouldnt be still writing and he wouldnt be on inside supercars

Has he really been reporting for v8sc for 10 years?

I can remember some quality stooges that News Corp and V8SC have rolled out over the years for example Chico Harlan in 2007.

I would suggest you need to more than merely report for a period of time to earn respect and credibility of readers and those within the sport.

[Umai Naa]

He seems to be grating on more and more people within the VASC community of late.

Only a matter of time before Warbo intervenes.

[anthony81901]

Telling factor for mine was early last year when Neil Crompton appeared on Inside Supercars and could barely hide his disdain for some of the ill informed comments News Corp's designated panelist was coming up with. And you can tell Mark Skaife often has to bite his tongue.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

He seems to be grating on more and more people within the VASC community of late.

Only a matter of time before Warbo intervenes.

Wasnt aware that the job of a journo was to be a suckhole.

thought it was to ask the hard questions that may upset people

[Compromised]

Name one genuinely "hard question" Phelps has ever asked in relation to Supercars.

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by peckstar

then again, creates talking points during the week

Wouldn't a good talking point be what the hell is the the future of Supercars? No new manufacturers, current manufacturers giving no sign of staying or going, where's the gen2 test mule at, why try and brainstorm a open wheel copy cat series when gen2 is still up in the air, how long can pra, DJR etc use falcons for, why did Homebush fail, was the failure of KL foreseen etc etc

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Compromised

Wouldn't a good talking point be what the hell is the the future of Supercars? No new manufacturers, current manufacturers giving no sign of staying or going, where's the gen2 test mule at, why try and brainstorm a open wheel copy cat series when gen2 is still up in the air, how long can pra, DJR etc use falcons for, why did Homebush fail, was the failure of KL foreseen etc etc

How is any of that good?

That just sounds like negative discusion, Not good at all

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Compromised

Name one genuinely "hard question" Phelps has ever asked in relation to Supercars.

Does Chris Pither being on pole reflect a reverse grid race?

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

James Phelps has been writing about v8 supercars for over ten years, he has the cred

and he can say what he wants.

The previous Newscorp Motorsport journalist struggled to see pay HRT, James on the otehr hand covers the whole field

Writing ill informed rubbish for over 10 years in the interest of obtaining clicks or papers sold is one thing. Writing informed factually correct articles without over dramatising reality is what gives a journalist cred. The fact Phelps covers the whole field when dribbling means he has cred? Please spare me!

Originally Posted by peckstar

Wasnt aware that the job of a journo was to be a suckhole.

thought it was to ask the hard questions that may upset people

His job is to tease out reality as part of his questioning. His job is not to make fantasy statements in the hope truth is revealed. He might as well have asked Garth Tander to prove he was heterosexual on a recent panel question for all the reaction he received from GT

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Writing ill informed rubbish for over 10 years in the interest of obtaining clicks or papers sold is one thing. Writing informed factually correct articles without over dramatising reality is what gives a journalist cred. The fact Phelps covers the whole field when dribbling means he has cred? Please spare me!

you left out

And he has more cred because he makes posters on here cry so that gives him lots of cred

If he upsets you lot he must be doing a good job. More power too him

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by peckstar

How is any of that good?

That just sounds like negative discusion, Not good at all

Didn't say positive, just hard hitting, as you were implying is James questioning technique. "Not a suckhole" I believe was how you described him. Now wouldn't someone that asks hard hitting questions by definition ask those with both positive and negative connotations? Don't really know how it would be possible to ask a hard hitting question about positive things either.

Re. the reverse grid comment, Chris is not Aaron Russell so no it doesn't reflect a reverse grid - not a hard question, just an uninformed, stupid question.

Hard hitting would be - "Does Aaron Russell overtaking frosty and frostys subsequent tantrum show that winterbottom is still a big sook?"

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Does Chris Pither being on pole reflect a reverse grid race?

I can kinda get the discussion from Mr Phelps around this.

Mr Pither, up until that weekend, had been arguably underperforming to his equipment, with stories around that that garage went its own way on setup and when they gave that up, to go back to 'regular' PRA settings, the speed came too.

The discussion around the driver's performance has nothing to do with the team principal's health, however it seems that it has been collapsed that way

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Compromised

Didn't say positive, just hard hitting, as you were implying is James questioning technique. "Not a suckhole" I believe was how you described him. Now wouldn't someone that asks hard hitting questions by definition ask those with both positive and negative connotations? Don't really know how it would be possible to ask a hard hitting question about positive things either.

Re. the reverse grid comment, Chris is not Aaron Russell so no it doesn't reflect a reverse grid - not a hard question, just an uninformed, stupid question.

Hard hitting would be - "Does Aaron Russell overtaking frosty and frostys subsequent tantrum show that winterbottom is still a big sook?"

James job is to discuss the sport, Not the management of the sport. To discuss the stuff we see on tv. the racing, the drivers etc

He didn't need to talk about Russell and frosty because others were talking about it already, so that creates no controversy and no further discussion

His job is to keep the talk going between rounds, to discuss controversial topics. when we talk about Pither and go to his FB, we discuss him and his sponsor. Thats awesome.

when he makes posters have a cry, that's awesome too, that creates passion

[rich07]

James job is to discuss the sport as a whole, management included. I'm all for someone keeping the sport in the headlines and maybe stirring up a bit of controversy now and then but only if they approach it objectively and with substance unlike Phelps.

James Phelps is a hack.

We really need someone who covers the category with the quality of Marshall Pruett who covers Indycar and IMSA in the states.

[TSR]

Originally Posted by peckstar

James Phelps has been writing about v8 supercars for over ten years, he has the cred

and he can say what he wants.

The previous Newscorp Motorsport journalist struggled to see pay HRT, James on the otehr hand covers the whole field

wonder how many people have just gone to Pithers FB who have never been there before. Goal achieved

Sounds like u r James Phelps number 1 fan peckstar

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Wasnt aware that the job of a journo was to be a suckhole.

thought it was to ask the hard questions that may upset people

Like Peter McKay?

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by peckstar

James job is to discuss the sport, Not the management of the sport. To discuss the stuff we see on tv. the racing, the drivers etc

He didn't need to talk about Russell and frosty because others were talking about it already, so that creates no controversy and no further discussion

His job is to keep the talk going between rounds, to discuss controversial topics. when we talk about Pither and go to his FB, we discuss him and his sponsor. Thats awesome.

when he makes posters have a cry, that's awesome too, that creates passion

For once I agree with you!
Phelps works for a News Ltd rag, is a panelist on a Fox- News Ltd production, and as I understand it, does some work for VASC. He's there to stir the pot and create interest, whether his comments are on the mark or not. The guy now has a dedicated thread on a forum, creates plenty of comment on social media and raises the hackles of the sports teams and personalities, so the last thing the TV network would be doing, is shafting him. Does anyone really think that they would be taking on board any whinging from team personnel about his line of questioning?
Keep in mind, Warburton is a media person himself. They love this stuff. They want to generate comment..... good, bad or indifferent. It means people are watching.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

you left out



If he upsets you lot he must be doing a good job. More power too him

Not sure many would "cry" over a forum discussion but maybe you have better information than me?

Creating clicks and selling papers makes him a hack, it does not give him cred. People on here don't like him because he is full of crap who passes said crap off as scoops, when they predominantly do not come to be the truth, this shows at worst he has made it up, at best put 2 and 2 together to get 61. I think GTRMagic's powder room has more success with the crystal ball than James Phelps. This lowers his cred. He deserves to be a writer for a gossip magazine, nothing more.

Originally Posted by porsche91722

For once I agree with you!
Phelps works for a News Ltd rag, is a panelist on a Fox- News Ltd production, and as I understand it, does some work for VASC. He's there to stir the pot and create interest, whether his comments are on the mark or not. The guy now has a dedicated thread on a forum, creates plenty of comment on social media and raises the hackles of the sports teams and personalities, so the last thing the TV network would be doing, is shafting him. Does anyone really think that they would be taking on board any whinging from team personnel about his line of questioning?
Keep in mind, Warburton is a media person himself. They love this stuff. They want to generate comment..... good, bad or indifferent. It means people are watching.

But what happens when people avoid anything he has to do with because of this? I generally stop reading anything nowadays when I see it is written by him

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Like Peter McKay?

No, have to be impartial as well and not on a bitter crusade because you got smashed in a battle in the 90's

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by peckstar

No, have to be impartial as well and not on a bitter crusade because you got smashed in a battle in the 90's

Interesting. Goes against this statement from you not so long back:

Originally Posted by peckstar

Its why we would really like a reporter somewhere in between Phelps and McKay

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Wasnt aware that the job of a journo was to be a suckhole.

Ironic when Phelps is there because of a deal between V8SC and NewsCorp

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Interesting. Goes against this statement from you not so long back:

I still agree with that, but its irrelevant to the discusion