Official Round 11: Hungarian Grand Prix - Page 2

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Jul 2012, 14:28 (Ref:3113270)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Zsolt Baumgartner?

He would do.

**Peter Mallett** · 29 Jul 2012, 14:33 (Ref:3113273)

DRS didn't work, tyres didn't fall off cliffs, no overtaking other than at the start. What's going on?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Jul 2012, 14:53 (Ref:3113285)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

DRS didn't work, tyres didn't fall off cliffs, no overtaking other than at the start. What's going on?

Sounds like your typical GP.

chillibowl · 29 Jul 2012, 15:02 (Ref:3113294)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Since the British GP these podium interviews seem to be the way to go. Why Placido Domingo? Haven't they got any famous Hungarians?

i like it too and actually thought Domingo did awesome up there.

might have been a lack of overtaking but Alonso's move on Perez at turn 3 more than made up for it.

**Peter Mallett** · 29 Jul 2012, 15:02 (Ref:3113296)

Oh and remarkably Pastor Maldonado demonstrated that. Extreme skill and talent he has. Although possibly not the sporting talent that some would have us believe.

mattt · 29 Jul 2012, 15:59 (Ref:3113320)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Nah, stationary yellow, just no overtaking. He did nothing wrong, if there is any sense. Probably not the only driver to set a quick time/sector towards the end.

No stationary yellow still means the driver should slow down, technically there shouldn't be stationary yellows at this meeting as it's FIA flag rules

FordCosworthPanoz · 29 Jul 2012, 16:37 (Ref:3113337)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Sounds like your typical GP.

No, it's your typical HUNGARIAN GP. Name one other (dry) race here since 2000 that had significant overtaking and excitement? Still better than Monaco though.

The 'purists' must have loved this race

skells22 · 29 Jul 2012, 16:56 (Ref:3113347)

Pastor is moaning about his pen that he got

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2012, 17:13 (Ref:3113352)

Well it wasn't intentional, just ineptitude, again.

djinvicta · 29 Jul 2012, 17:18 (Ref:3113355)

Without sounding negative. That was the first boring GP this year...

QnickFTW · 29 Jul 2012, 17:22 (Ref:3113356)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Oh and remarkably Pastor Maldonado demonstrated that. Extreme skill and talent he has. Although possibly not the sporting talent that some would have us believe.

I actually enjoyed Maldonado's move, I wouldnt want to lose the Maldonado who pulls aggresive moves like that (I could deal without the Maldonado who spins off and crash it on the last lap in Melbourne and do completely stupid things like in Monaco, Valencia or Britain)

I dont think it was penalty-worthy at all, just some good ol' wheel banging racing is what it was.

**Adam43** · 29 Jul 2012, 17:28 (Ref:3113360)

Quick! youtube Dijon 1979

QnickFTW · 29 Jul 2012, 17:50 (Ref:3113368)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Quick! youtube Dijon 1979

I know, pretty decent year in mustard industry

werner · 29 Jul 2012, 20:04 (Ref:3113399)

Maldonado should have given DiResta his place back in the next corner, and try to overtake him again the next lap. But that never seems to happen anymore this year...

**chunterer** · 29 Jul 2012, 20:16 (Ref:3113403)

I thought it was innocent this time, ballsy move, PDR defended fairly but PM lost grip mid corner. I suspect that PM will be made an example of everytime he comes into contact with another car now anyway. He's made a rod for his own back.

Elsewhere i'm afraid Enstone gifted it to Lewis today, Lewis was fairly honest in saying on a quicker track he probably wouldn't have won. However clearly McLaren have made serious steps forward which is great for the chamiponship.

**Bononi** · 29 Jul 2012, 21:35 (Ref:3113438)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

Without sounding negative. That was the first boring GP this year...

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Originally Posted by werner

Maldonado should have given DiResta his place back in the next corner, and try to overtake him again the next lap. But that never seems to happen anymore this year...

You can always count on PM to add some flavour to the race !

TrapezeArtist · 29 Jul 2012, 23:15 (Ref:3113465)

Whatever was Mickey Shoe up to at the start? The aborted start lights came up and apparently he switched the engine off. They fired him up again at the start of the pitlane and he took off like a scalded cat! It's hard to judge these things definitively but I thought his speed down the pitlane looked way over the top. If I'm right, he didn't use the limiter at all, but just blasted down to the end (to wait). Red mist?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 30 Jul 2012, 00:42 (Ref:3113495)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

No, it's your typical HUNGARIAN GP. Name one other (dry) race here since 2000 that had significant overtaking and excitement? Still better than Monaco though.

The 'purists' must have loved this race

Or Bahrain,

beau1 · 30 Jul 2012, 01:05 (Ref:3113499)

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Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Whatever was Mickey Shoe up to at the start? The aborted start lights came up and apparently he switched the engine off. They fired him up again at the start of the pitlane and he took off like a scalded cat! It's hard to judge these things definitively but I thought his speed down the pitlane looked way over the top. If I'm right, he didn't use the limiter at all, but just blasted down to the end (to wait). Red mist?

There is something about him going in the wrong grid slot too.
I didn't see him racing down the pitlane but didn't he receive a penalty for it anyway?

It seemed like a bad day at the office, I knew there was going to be trouble half way around the formation lap when Lewis didn't manage the field particularly well and split everyone up.

CTD · 30 Jul 2012, 01:10 (Ref:3113502)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

No, it's your typical HUNGARIAN GP. Name one other (dry) race here since 2000 that had significant overtaking and excitement? Still better than Monaco though.

The 'purists' must have loved this race

Todays race has actually made me think how long we will continue to see an Hungarian GP.
The Track itself isnt very memoriable.
The races are rarely actionpacked.
The manufactures doesnt seem interested in making PR (we didn't see any regional sponsorship other than the maximmuscle on McLaren, eventhoug it was a good chance to market the Dacia brand with all the Renault powered cars).

I honestly think there are tracks and countries who deserve a race more.

CTD · 30 Jul 2012, 01:13 (Ref:3113503)

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Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

Whatever was Mickey Shoe up to at the start? The aborted start lights came up and apparently he switched the engine off. They fired him up again at the start of the pitlane and he took off like a scalded cat! It's hard to judge these things definitively but I thought his speed down the pitlane looked way over the top. If I'm right, he didn't use the limiter at all, but just blasted down to the end (to wait). Red mist?

An now "interesting" statistic on MSC is that he has retired in 6 out of 11 races!
At some point the PR value of his name will be lower than cost of having him driving... I hope he will retire completely before this happen.

beau1 · 30 Jul 2012, 02:08 (Ref:3113510)

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Originally Posted by CTD

An now "interesting" statistic on MSC is that he has retired in 6 out of 11 races!
At some point the PR value of his name will be lower than cost of having him driving... I hope he will retire completely before this happen.

I think that is more relevant for the entire Mercedes brand considering they've directly caused 4 of his 6 retirements whilst he was was fairly good points positions. They've also produced cars in the last three years that were capable of only one race win and a smattering of podiums.
Nico has been in terrible form the last 3 races too and has only managed to score 2 points. They must be questioning why they are even bothering to be in the sport anymore rather than their driver choices - they are turning into a new Toyota, plenty of promise but no results.

Out of all the problems Schumacher has had this season, only Spain and Hungary can he be directly blamed for.

TrapezeArtist · 30 Jul 2012, 08:51 (Ref:3113599)

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Originally Posted by beau1

There is something about him going in the wrong grid slot too.
I didn't see him racing down the pitlane but didn't he receive a penalty for it anyway?

Yes, he just got the standard penalty for pitlane speeding. I think that normally means that a car has not quite got down to the limit as it reaches the start of the limit zone. Therefore they're just a few mph over for a few yards. In this case it looked as though Schuey just blatted down the pitlane at a speed that was visually obvious. If so, a very silly mistake for an experienced driver, and a dangerous one too as people in the pitlane wouldn't be expecting a car at that moment.

**Bononi** · 30 Jul 2012, 13:49 (Ref:3113742)

I have to confess that TGF is surprising me... everything he didn't do as a rookie, he's doing now.

Marbot · 31 Jul 2012, 14:28 (Ref:3114240)

Mr Shoemaker needs to have a good long think about what's best for him to do, during this long summer break.

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