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Old 15 Jun 2011, 16:47 (Ref:2899613)   #126
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Old 15 Jun 2011, 17:08 (Ref:2899631)   #127
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Toyota may've picked them up for more than 1 reason. The facilities are big enough for multiple operations to take place. Not just Toyota is using them either. I'm not sure how it works, but Ferrari even used their wind tunnel. I don't know if that information is only gathered by Ferrari, but from other teams in F1 using them, Toyota may have some serious feedback.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:14 (Ref:2900095)   #128
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Interesting news from Mariantic...

"Toyota testing Dome built open LMP1 - Autosport print ed."

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:39 (Ref:2900115)   #129
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Open?

Considering the too many Toyota-Dome link rumours over the years not sure if I believe this one.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:42 (Ref:2900117)   #130
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I don't believe it either. Why would they go for an open car instead of a coupe? The consensus is that the LMP1 car will be designed/is being designed by TMG in Cologne, not by Dome in Japan.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:45 (Ref:2900121)   #131
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I don't believe it either. Why would they go for an open car instead of a coupe? The consensus is that the LMP1 car will be designed/is being designed by TMG in Cologne, not by Dome in Japan.
Maybe it is just a testbed? Although in that case, why not use the S102? Or the Lola? Maybe it is really a LMP2? Yeah, I agree that it does not make a lot of sense, although I just posted here (I think this thread) a couple of days ago wondering about the status of the Dome-Toyota/Nissan rumors.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:53 (Ref:2900126)   #132
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Maybe they already played around with the Dome Coupe and are now testing an open car for reference?

I don't know who it was, but didn't one of the top brass from Peugeot say during LM-week that there is no difference in performance between open and closed cars?
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 10:56 (Ref:2900131)   #133
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I don't know who it was, but didn't one of the top brass from Peugeot say during LM-week that there is no difference in performance between open and closed cars?
Supposedly, although even Aston Martin/GHC said that a closed car is advantageous. I think Peugeot would have more reason to lie, although maybe they know something we don't.

EDIT: Perhaps TMG is doing some development work and one of the Lolas (or the closed Dome) were not available? It seems unlikely that TMG would not have some cars at their disposal, but who knows.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 11:04 (Ref:2900136)   #134
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Maybe they already played around with the Dome Coupe and are now testing an open car for reference?

I don't know who it was, but didn't one of the top brass from Peugeot say during LM-week that there is no difference in performance between open and closed cars?
In a recent interview Dr Ulrich also said that when they put a dome over the r15 they could see advantages to having a coupe over a open car. They just didn't have one because of the driver change being quicker on a open car.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 11:08 (Ref:2900145)   #135
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They are covering all the possibilities. The testing should cover all the option´s, and IMO they are testing a new engine and a old car does not attract much attention!!!
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 11:22 (Ref:2900160)   #136
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Isn't it S101.5?
There was a rumor that Toyota was testing the engine with S101.5 before.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 12:09 (Ref:2900190)   #137
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Well the consensus is Toyota is coming back to Lemans. WE jsut have to wait for the announcement. Adn hopefully the ACO will step up to the plate.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 14:21 (Ref:2900282)   #138
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Be nice if some American manufacturers would follow them .

What American car manufacturers actually do run an international series ?
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What American car manufacturers actually do run an international series ?
The first two brands that come to my mind. Chevrolet does WTCC and Ford does WRC.
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 15:26 (Ref:2900322)   #140
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I also am under the opinion that they are probably testing a new engine (poss. hybrid drivetrain) in a car that already has a baseline for testing. Then move the tested drivetrain into a new car after the drivetrain bugs have been ironed out. That same way of thinking would have saved Aston Martin some headaches for sure... All speculation at this time but I am very happy Dome is involved to some degree. I have wanted Dome and Epsilon + Embassy to come back with some factory help/$ and a "world championship" may just be the right bait to see it happen...
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 17:21 (Ref:2900385)   #141
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Details are in the Toyota thread, but basically Toyota have been involved in the S101.5, S102 and now a new car, no details on it being open or closed.

ACO also say four manufacturers are looking to enter P1.
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Details are in the Toyota thread, but basically Toyota have been involved in the S101.5, S102 and now a new car, no details on it being open or closed.

ACO also say four manufacturers are looking to enter P1.
Toyota;Nissan, who are the others???
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 17:39 (Ref:2900407)   #143
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Mazda and Hyundai? Two manufacturers talked about earlier in this thread.
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The only hint was a couple of these were large manufacturers.

Would Hyundai or Mazda be considered small?
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Toyota;Nissan, who are the others???
I would guess Honda, and DeltaWing
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Way out of left field, but I've read something today about BMW thinking about their own Diesel-Prototype...
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Old 16 Jun 2011, 18:02 (Ref:2900429)   #147
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Mazda confirmed P2 from the mouth of Mr. Patrick Dempsey, who knows about P1 though. I wouldn't consider Hyundai small either. They're actually pretty big, and rich. This Toyota story piques my interest most.
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Toyota;Nissan, who are the others???
Porsche or Renault?
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plz plz plz let it be Ferrari
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