'10 LMS Finalé • Silverstone • '10 ILMC Round 1 - Page 14

henk4 · 15 Sep 2010, 17:57 (Ref:2759961)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Is the 40K for the whole weekend? Even then, I'd also doubt the figure from the numbers I saw.

At least 20k were trying to get an autograph from "your Nige"....

**Dani Filth** · 15 Sep 2010, 18:54 (Ref:2759984)

were they giving free ice-cream ?? .. i would understand the 20k in that case

henk4 · 15 Sep 2010, 19:10 (Ref:2759992)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

were they giving free ice-cream ?? .. i would understand the 20k in that case

blasphemious remark, how dare you comparing Nige to an ice-cream....

JAG · 15 Sep 2010, 19:44 (Ref:2760020)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

Where did the 40k figure come from, couldn't see it in that report. Was busier than I had expected but based on what I've seen at other meetings it didn't seem like 40k. Of course always difficult to judge when the GP circuit is in use.

It's an article that appears to be based around a Peugeot press release.

http://www.eurotuner.com/news/eurp_1...one/index.html

Sun report

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...lverstone.html

**Woolley** · 15 Sep 2010, 21:02 (Ref:2760068)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

I have one major gripe. Why, why, why, when it was open on Saturday, was the new Becketts grandstand closed on Sunday? We made our way down there for the start of the race, only to find it completely locked and bolted (and that's how it remained for the entire race)!

I was flagging at Becketts In and we had a few disgruntled spectators asking us that very question. I had to agree with their point, but unfortunately it's been so long since I've been that side of the fence I really couldn't give an answer. I know there's been cases in the past where grandstands weren't open if there wasn't a steward to man them, but it seems ridiculous that you can apparently trust spectators on rough ground and dodgy slopes, but not on a purpose built grandstand. Poor show, Silverstone.

**Aysedasi** · 15 Sep 2010, 21:49 (Ref:2760093)

Particularly as we'd sat in it on Saturday, thought what a great view it was, and banked on watching the start of the race from there on Sunday - disappointing......

LeMans.pt · 16 Sep 2010, 11:04 (Ref:2760281)

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Originally Posted by henk4

blasphemious remark, how dare you comparing Nige to an ice-cream....

Have you tasted the ice creams?
I eat a bunch of them at Le Mans paddock... i'll bet they taste better than Nigel

LeMans.pt · 16 Sep 2010, 11:10 (Ref:2760282)

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Originally Posted by JAG

It's an article that appears to be based around a Peugeot press release.

http://www.eurotuner.com/news/eurp_1...one/index.html

Sun report

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...lverstone.html

True, and also on the LMS website:

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This final 2010 Le Mans Series race have offered the 40,000 spectators a very exciting show.

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Is the 40K for the whole weekend? Even then, I'd also doubt the figure from the numbers I saw.

As far as i can tell, and that was the case at Portimão, the numbers came from the tickets sold or given for the whole wekend.

Tim the Grey · 16 Sep 2010, 12:46 (Ref:2760335)

Silverstone is a such a BIG place, 40K people can get lost in it!
It was very quiet on Friday when I was there, but looking at some pix, there did seem to be a fair few around the Complex, and Arena areas...

Tim the Grey · 16 Sep 2010, 13:09 (Ref:2760346)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Our report is on, enjoy, especially the Saleen.....

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/event...e-1000-km.html

Pieter, thank you for The Artist At Work! I haven't laughed so much in ages. You caught Jake's better side, at least...

jodyfirth · 16 Sep 2010, 15:23 (Ref:2760398)

Thanks Bentley03, really was one of the best racing weekends in my life! Very pleased to have won all three races in the weekend, especially the LMS on home soil. More so that the win gave our team mates the championship!

**Aysedasi** · 16 Sep 2010, 19:55 (Ref:2760560)

Welcome to the forum Jody and bloody well done!

**Bentley03** · 17 Sep 2010, 00:04 (Ref:2760656)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Welcome to the forum Jody and bloody well done!

I suspect he forgot the password for his 'Jody Firth' login..........

**Bentley03** · 17 Sep 2010, 00:15 (Ref:2760657)

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Originally Posted by jodyfirth

Thanks Bentley03, really was one of the best racing weekends in my life! Very pleased to have won all three races in the weekend, especially the LMS on home soil. More so that the win gave our team mates the championship!

Yep, very well done mate, I'm hugely impressed (and delighted)!

So, now that you're clearly ready to move up to LMP2 in 2011, I assume we can expect an exciting announcement in due course!

**Aysedasi** · 17 Sep 2010, 19:52 (Ref:2761011)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

I suspect he forgot the password for his 'Jody Firth' login..........

Ah, of course!

dank · 18 Sep 2010, 18:24 (Ref:2761313)

Allan McNish on last weekend's race: http://youtu.be/BLjMbQjrxxU

chernaudi · 18 Sep 2010, 20:17 (Ref:2761346)

McNish on his website said that Peugeot got the jump early because they were able to warm their tires quicker than he was able too, so it seemed that Allan's R15 didn't have the same handling issues as the #8 did. Whether or not that would've made a difference won't be known now with the DNF, though.

He also said that Audi have an idea about why the #8 had it's issues and those should be fixed by PLM, along with the differential.

CTD · 19 Sep 2010, 11:05 (Ref:2761482)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

McNish on his website said that Peugeot got the jump early because they were able to warm their tires quicker than he was able too, so it seemed that Allan's R15 didn't have the same handling issues as the #8 did. Whether or not that would've made a difference won't be known now with the DNF, though.

He also said that Audi have an idea about why the #8 had it's issues and those should be fixed by PLM, along with the differential.

I'm sorry Chernaudi, but it's beginning to sound a bit naive..
The #7 broke after 15 laps, and was overtaken only a few laps before... If Audi can't get heat in their tires after 15 laps, then they have a serious problem. And if it's the case, well, then the Peugeot still is the better car, as getting heat in the tires quickly is essential to get good grip, and apparently Peugeot can do that, and Audi can't.

**Aysedasi** · 19 Sep 2010, 16:05 (Ref:2761557)

Yep, CTD's right - I really think it's time to let go of those straws and admit it chernaudi and hope for better luck next time out.......

chernaudi · 19 Sep 2010, 16:11 (Ref:2761561)

Allan also said that he started to close on Davidson within a few laps of the diff blowing, and that by the end of the stint, he expected the Audi to improve due to more rubber on the track.

I doubt that the 908 is the better car, as according to Allan in his Autosport video the R15 seemed to have the edge on the 908 in high speed cornering (more netural weight distribution and downforce package). It seems, based on practice and qualifiying times, that Audi has finally equaled Peugeot, at least at ALMS/LMS style tracks.

And it could be tire compound, too. Since it was cool during the race (conbined with the early start), Peugeot may've switched to a softer compound because of the trouble they had during practice and qualifying, while Audi ran harder tires to have more speed during a double stint (it seems Audi planned on double stinting both cars until the #7 went out).

Unless it's like the ALMS, where you have to start the race with at least 3 out of the 4 tires you used in qualifying, I'll bet that Audi and Peugeot may've changed tires--Audi hoping to have more consistant speed over a double stint, and Peugeot going for maximum grip with the track and air temperature. After all, I doubt that Davidson started the race on the tires that Minassian flat spotted while trying to do his flyer--if so, he'd have fell like a rock.

Such a change also could partly explain the #8's early handling problems/pace lap spin and why the factory Pug had 3 spins during the weekend (I know that Davidson said his car bottomed out for his spin, but I'll bet that a lack of grip played a role, too).

I'd have to say that in the same track conditions and with the optimal areo and chassis set up/tire choice, the R15 and the 908 are pretty much equal at an ALMS/LMS track. Oddly, it was just as cold at Paul Ricard and the R15 held the advantage over the 908, which, aside from the LM nose, was in similar spec to what the 908s were at Silverstone.

Also, why Davidson got an inital gap over Allan (according to him), was that he tried to overtake Anthony but got areo loose/snap oversteer from the wash from the Pug's rear wing. I'm quoting someone who was there, which very few of us were, and almost none of us was in a car on track.

NightStalk3r · 19 Sep 2010, 16:13 (Ref:2761563)

blah blah blah, the Peugeot is faster than you can you confirm you understand this message?

HORNDAWG · 19 Sep 2010, 16:13 (Ref:2761564)

Audi LOST!!!!

L.P.

Victor_RO · 19 Sep 2010, 16:17 (Ref:2761565)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Unless it's like the ALMS, where you have to start the race with at least 3 out of the 4 tires you used in qualifying, I'll bet that Audi and Peugeot may've changed tires

The car has to start on the tires it qualified on in the LMS aswell, IIRC. I think that's why both Rebellion Lolas were sent to the back of the grid for the Algarve round.

P.S. In terms of speed, 908 > R15 plus, 908 >> R15, 908 >>> R10. That is all.

**Aysedasi** · 19 Sep 2010, 16:17 (Ref:2761566)

OK. Peugeot won, Audi lost and in the absence of a time machine, no amount of 'If only.....' is going to change that. Time to move on, methinks.

Now then, what else happened at Silverstone......

Victor_RO · 19 Sep 2010, 16:30 (Ref:2761568)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Now then, what else happened at Silverstone......

Um... Oh yeah. Aston nearly won in GT2.

Should be an encouraging sign for potential customers of this car, it's got most of its bugs worked out of the system and it's now properly fast.

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