CSCC Classic & Jaguar Weekend - Cadwell, 6/7 September, 2008

[John Turner]

Unexpectedly (well, at short notice, anyway), I found myself at this meeting on the Sunday. Cadwell is such a lovely circuit, the weather was generally very fair and the racing was good fun to watch, although there were a disproportionate number of red flag periods in the morning.

Met up with 10-Tenther, Celia Stevens with Peerless GT. Failed in my attempts to finally meet up with fellow mod, Adam Ashmore, but I guess it'll happen at some stage. Any other 10-Tenthers, there?

I'll put a few pics up from the 'historics' element of this meeting in due course, but I have some catching up to do on other threads first. Both Celia and Adam's cars will feature, though!

[Colin McKay]

John,

There's a lot of chat about this meeting on the marshall's forum. Any pics of No 36, the white Mk2 Jag?

[AndyV]

I was there, my first outing as a registered Sixties Swinger.

Great racing and dry too.

Andy
(Black/Silver Spitfire #50)

[NiG_21]

I was there too, just behind Adam Ashmore on the Swinging Sixties grid (Red Spitfire #21)... Andy's right - great racing*... want pics, want, want !!

*Andy beat me but I got faster lap... :P

[John Turner]

OK, I'll pop into the marshal's forum ..... and try to find pics of all of you when I do my pictorial review.

[Adam43]

John, sorry I missed you, I was off on an urgent mission (cup of coffee IIRC). I kept my eye open for the rest of the meeting, but I guess you were in more interesting places than the back of the paddock. It was great racing, I was hampered by a dodgy second gear (and talent), but that didn't stop the enjoyment.

I am new to the series and am really enjoying it. It is great racing. I was stuck behind Wilkinsons E-Type. He had the power, but I had the lightness. A bit like when I was with the Spitfires, but then I had the power, but not the braking/gears! I wasn't able to get past. After I showed my hand into Mansfield, but botched it up and missed second, he defended well and didn't give me the opportunity to get past. It was fun to be stuck on teh E-Types bumper though.

Great to see so many swingers (!) on 10-10ths too. Andy and Nigel Great to race with you.

[Adam43]

There are none of us, but there are some photographs of our fellow racers on flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/lewiscraik/...in/dateposted/
I think the user might be uploading them as I type...

Nigel has a thread in Motosport Art and Photography: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109632
and the Marshals thread is here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109447

[MGDavid]

I was debuting in Swingers too, Midget #57, just a second or so behind Adam and the Spits; my other driver (just) beat the B's best race lap time which is encouraging.... if only the throttle cable hadn't broken under his heavy right foot....

[Adam43]

Lots of newbie swingers.
It is a great field of cars. Whatever your car is you always end up battling with other interesting cars.

[John Turner]

Yes, it was good field and good to watch.

[Adam43]

Historic racing, lets see some from Cadwell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjSjYQaTpEk
I wish I had seen this earlier as I have just realised what the ideal line up the Mountain is.

[NiG_21]

3mins 44secs in.... he does seem to be leading

[terence]

1960,? Anglia? Thought it was 62 they came out.Good bit of film though,apart from the tyre squeal.

[Peter Mallett]

Yes, Chumley-Warner was a very good commentator.

[COLIN STUBBS]

My dads in that film!!

[Adam43]

Cool, which one is he?

[johnw]

Roy James too!
Later to be getaway driver for the Great Train Robbers.

Probably a mate of Colin's Dad

[John Turner]

Summed up rather quickly, I'm afraid, since this race lasted just 3 laps before being redflagged to clear up an accident and was not restarted. As a result, the number of pics I took was low, and even less survive my scrapping process!

The grid lined up with Mike Cann's XJ40 (48), unbelievably a 1984 car (is it really that long ago?) on pole with Tim Morant's 1972 XJ6 (62) alongside:-


The 3 leaders tackle the Mountain; McCann, Morant and Richard Dorlin (32 - XJ6):-


Guy Connew (72 - XJ6 - 16th) and Patrick Doyle (91 - XJ6 Coupe) hammer down the startline straight. Doyle's car was one that was returned to the paddock on the back of a recovery vehicle after the stoppage:-


Sorry Colin (McKay), but this was the only shot I got of you due to the restricted race length. Shortly after this was taken all the cars were sent back to the Paddock. Mike Cann was declared the winner with Richard Dorlin 2nd, so I don't know what happened to Morrant who was classified down in 8th place. Peter Dorlin was 3rd in his 1966 3.8 Mk2. Colin was classified 10th in his Mk 2. I note, too that Doyle was also classified, 17th, and I've noted an increasing tendency over the last couple of cars to classify cars that are involved in crashes that have brought out the red flag. Formerly they were excluded, since they were the reason for the stoppage. Is this a change of policy, and is it right?:-

[Colin McKay]

There were a few surprising decisions at Cadwell...on Saturday our qualifying was red flagged with half the cars having completed 3 timed laps, several only 2 and at least 1 car (the one in the tyre wall!) only achieving a single lap, yet all the times were allowed to stand and that was the end of our qualifying. Whatever happened to the 3 lap minimum?

[John Turner]

Yes, it would be good to get an 'official' response to these issues.

[MGDavid]

I think it has always been the case that the CoC can use his discretion in giving a waiver to the 'requirement' for 3 qualifying laps; very sensibly in my book, otherwise some people might go without a race :-(
Certainly I have personally benefited from a waiver on at least 2 occasions in recent years....

[morninggents]

Usually the CoC will consider the warm up / green flag lap as one of the three competitors are supposed to complete before racing.

[Adam43]

They are always fighting with time. The choice may have been curtain the practive or curtail/cancel a race later in the day.

[Micky.H]

I thought the 3 lap rule was discretionary depending on experience of the circuit during the year, i.e. raced / practiced during the year.
Did you raise the issue with the CoC on the Saturday, if not, don't complain after the event.
Would you of preferred your fellow competitors not to of raced?
If it was you that had only done 1 or 2 laps would you be impressed if you were sent home without a race?

[John Turner]

I don't think Colin was complaining; merely making an observation, followed by a question, just as mine was.