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Old 19 Jul 2007, 09:15   #61
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The summer event which last year took place in July is no longer. I know not of any other opportunities to race a historic single seater at Spa apart from an FJ at 6hours but could be wrong.

So far as accidents are concerned EddyV I don't agree. There has been endless discussion about the accidents in closed wheel races at the 6hours meeting on this forum, and the cause attributed to tyres, spec of car and woeful driving from what I can interpret. There's no rememedy for drivers brain fade however I think there's an argument to say there's less crashes in single seaters because the drivers have a lot more respect for each other as any contact usually ends up with more severe consequences than with closed wheel cars.

That's not to say accidents don't happen of course. I lent my own car to my dear uncle in 2002 which resulted in him being ambulanced to Liege hospital with broken ribs and burns, and no it wasnt raining.
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Old 19 Jul 2007, 09:17   #62
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James,

I suspect the lack of a July race this year is due to the circuit changes. A number of regular events were canned.
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Old 19 Jul 2007, 09:27   #63
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Possibly Peter although I heard on the grapevine that the organiser (can't remember who it was) didn't want to organise another meeting as it was too much hassle but could be wrong.

I still think there's scope for a couple more single seater races being incoorporated into the 6hours event like there used to be, and not to the detriment of the closed wheel drivers as there's plenty of races for those cars as previoulsy mentioned.

I guess it's down tothe organiser at the end of the day though and they have the choice to steer it in any direction they wish.
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Possibly Peter although I heard on the grapevine that the organiser (can't remember who it was) didn't want to organise another meeting as it was too much hassle but could be wrong.
I still think there's scope for a couple more single seater races being incoorporated into the 6hours event like there used to be, and not to the detriment of the closed wheel drivers as there's plenty of races for those cars as previoulsy mentioned.
I think the HSCC race(s) next year will be for single seaters again. It was always for single seaters up until 2006 when the closed cars were given a chance. It's closed cars again this year but I believe will alternate with single seaters thereafter. I think this is fair to cover all the HSCC categories.

By the way, I did a track day at Spa in early June, the first eveny, I believe, on the new circuit. The new chicane is a lot tighter than the old bus-stop with the first right hander turning more than 90 degrees with adverse camber at the turn-in, then an adverse camber tight left on to the pit straight. Interestingly, the pit road entrance is between the right and left turns! I think lap times will be up a couple of seconds.
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I've not been able to open the Roadbook website and find a programme, does anyone whether HSCC have got their races? If so, what the programme might be? I failed to keep my TR5 running that long into the season last year, and raced with Jonathon Rushton in his Morgan, but I'm determined to go this year, if the programme is similar to last year. Just the HSCC races for me though - might be happy to 'pit' for someone in the 6 Hours depending on how my own programme looks.

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I've not been able to open the Roadbook website and find a programme, does anyone whether HSCC have got their races? If so, what the programme might be? I failed to keep my TR5 running that long into the season last year, and raced with Jonathon Rushton in his Morgan, but I'm determined to go this year, if the programme is similar to last year. Just the HSCC races for me though - might be happy to 'pit' for someone in the 6 Hours depending on how my own programme looks.

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Classic Sports Car Club has a half hour quali and one hour race at Spa on 20/21 October this year for pre-81 sports and saloons for 1 or 2 drivers, including dinner on Sat night at 345. (This is an ADAC Meeting). All those not going to Daytona (cars will be on high seas) are welcome as long as you are registered in Swinging 60s or Future Classics Series with the Club (95 for year total)

Also, repeat race next year on 18 May weekend (with Alain Defalle & Classic Liege)

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Torquewrench. What exactly has your post to do with the spa 6hrs which takes place on 5th to 7th October 2007?

Booked my ferry tickets yesterday.
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Which route are you going Peter and how much if you don't mind me asking?
Best I've found is Norfolk Line to Dieppe (I think) for 130 although I think we may settle for Dover Calais.
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146.00 Seafrance Dover/Calais.
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we usually forgoe the displeasure of boats, diesel whiffs and queueing with the great unwashed, and use the tunnel

costs an extra 50 or so but saves hours both ways, and itsimpossible to feel sick on a train
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I looked and its 120.00 extra and I like the relaxed approach.
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The cheapest I could find for the tunnel was 2 day return tickets at 98 each 3 or 4 days apart, cheapest way of doing it properly is 240.
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cheapest way of doing it properly is 240.
If I was on Overseas 'Mallet' Wonga I could afford that
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not being able to race a "historic" single seater at spa?. I will race my RF80 and Swift88 at Spa next weekend. nice weekend organised by ADAC.
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Can you get a 7.5 ton truck on the tunnel train?

Esper I think it depends possibly on your interpretation of historic single seater. I wouldnt classify a Swift 88 historic! My point was that the 6hours event used to cater for almost all historic cars whether open or closed wheels that were pre 80ish. In its current format its predominantely for sports and saloons apart from F1 Masters and HFJ.

I really don't know why I'm making this point as my dad has an HFJ so I can go anyway! Was just making an observation after all I guess.
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